• garretble@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Shoulda become president first THEN leaked classified documents to russia. He’d be fine in that case.

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      No no no, see:

      FBI Director Christopher Wray said that his sentence should serve as “a stark warning to all those entrusted with protecting national defense information: betray that trust, and you will be held accountable.”

      They mean business! For real this time. No take backs. While supplies last. Void in some states. Not all locations participate. Some restrictions apply.

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        Instead it is a message to tyrants: The US is for sale, you may loot and pillage as you desire. The law cannot and will not stop you.

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      Not only wouldn’t he see a punishment, but he’d be elected a second time to do it again!

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    You fool, you’re only supposed to post things like that on the Warthunder forums!

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    4 days ago

    I thought I read this before, and sure enough it’s a follow up to a 2023 article

    TL;DR: 21 year old national guard leaked classified documents on Discord for attention and got caught for it. Nice work.

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        No idea why they worded the article that way. The person going to prison is the person who leaked the documents and was also the admin of the discord server they leaked it to.

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          Thank you for confirming. I don’t click articles on socials due to tracking but that’s my understanding also.

          So the wording is FUD as I suspected…

          His crime is posting classified info as insider and he can’t even pretend to be a whistleblower.

          Either way, folks take note! This is how modern propaganda works. Subtle and you have to know facts before hand in order not to fall for it

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            This is how modern propaganda works.

            maybe it is modern propaganda, maybe the author is just incompetent moron trying to get as much clicks as possible 😔

            Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/07/14/matthew-crooks-shooting-assasination-attempt-suspect/

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              are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

              Might Discord be, potentially, in some way related to the notorious hacker known as 4chan 🤣

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              Who ever wrote that have superficial understanding of how these services operate…

              They should not be writing on the topic if they don’t properly researched the topic.

              They at best an idiot, but likely just a useful idiot for the people in charge.

              Where is the editorial quality?

              🤡

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                but likely just a useful idiot for the people in charge

                that’s little bit too harsh. the authors of the article write general news, they do not specialize in technology, and it is pretty clear none of them is gamer (i suspect that telegraph correspondent to united states doesn’t have much free time to waste on gaming 😂).

                so while that paragraph is stupid to the degree where it is bordering on funny, i am not looking for malicious intent behind it.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor

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        first of all, admin of some random discord server is something else than discord admin, but that wouldn’t give such nice tabloid headline…

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    In the 2000s I thought that due to more and more people being on the internet, stories like this would be very common in the future, not just for the government, but private entities too.

    In reality: Most things that happen at most workplaces are not interesting enough to leak, and most people do not want to risk their careers for something like this. So it’s still relatively rare.

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    Publish absolutely every government document. There should be no such thing as a secret government document ever. If you don’t want it known, don’t collect it. Don’t generate it.

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      Yep, everyone should know nuclear codes, inside agents in terrorist cells, where to strike to kill as many and do as much damage as possible, how to manufacture weapons and IEDs…

      Should i continue? Are you fucking stupid?

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      Personally I dont want the government documents with my home address and phone number and tax id and voting history to be leaked, tyvm

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        Why would the government know your voting history? Isn’t voting anonymous where you live?

        No idea what a tax id is but in Sweden everyone’s home address, income, phone number, “personnummer” (a unique ID assigned to every citizen), and some other stuff. And for the most part it works pretty well. I’m usually concerned about privacy but I don’t mind this because it applies to everyone equally (except a few people with protected identity for safety reasons) and it’s just so open and convenient.

        I’m not saying that all government documents should be public information but here most documents are.

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          God I hope the government records my voting history

          As someone who votes over mail, it drives me crazy that I can’t login to some website and get confirmation that they have received the vote, and what they recorded the votes as.

          People deserve to be able to confirm their votes. Its a requirement for a democracy.

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            Vote in person then 🤷

            Here it’s only possible to mail vote from abroad and I have never done it but it doesn’t appear that you get a confirmation here either.

            If we are talking about registers of who voted and not for whom. Why does it matter? Who voted isn’t secret at all. So why even bring that up? For the record I voted in the most recent EU and national elections.

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        While I disagree with OP, that kind of information isn’t classified. It’s personally identifiable information which is restricted and secured, but it’s not classified in the same sense as the person who leaked on discord.

        In response to op, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to classify information that are not nefarious. For example, a diagram explaining the security systems for a building. It’s better to restrict access to that document so it is less likely for an adversary to see the details, because all that would really do is enable them to identify weaknesses which they could exploit. Generally this sort of thing is called operational security and I think it is actually the basis for the US government’s mandatory access control in the first place (e.g. “loose lips sink ships”).

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        And if all records had to be public, there would have been a hell of a lot lower chance of nuclear weapons being invented. Because who would want to give that weapon to everybody else as well as themselves?

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            Yes, I think so. I think absolutely everybody capable of having one, having one, should cause nobody to want to invade anybody else, etc. Because of the threat that such an action poses, and if humanity is dumb enough to wipe themselves out with nuclear weapons, then we weren’t meant to be around anyway.

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        And? For the average country, the difficult thing about nuclear weapons is not how to build one (pipe with two halves and a bit explosives is enough for a few kt) but to get enough Plutonium. You know, the whole thing with Israel running secret facilities with ceramic centrifuges for years. What US and China are wasting a few MW computer center each year on, is getting a bit more out of it than the competition, especially fusion weapons. Seen rationally, it’s a childish “i have the bigger dick boom”.