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- theguardian@rss.ponder.cat
Summary
Stephen Moore, a senior economic adviser to US president-elect Donald Trump, urged the UK to adopt the US “free enterprise” model over Europe’s “more socialist” system, suggesting it would enhance the Trump administration’s “willingness” to pursue a UK-US trade deal.
Moore also defended US agricultural practices and Trump’s proposed 10% blanket import tariff, noting possible exemptions for allies like the UK.
UK leaders, including Keir Starmer, face pressure to balance trade ties with both the EU and US, with figures like Peter Mandelson advocating dual trade agreements amid Brexit challenges.
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Pick socialism, dont fall for it. Dont become corporate property. Dont let them own the world.
Socialism isn’t even on offer these days. What Republicans consider socialist stretches all the way from communism to conservatism.
TIL I live in socialist EU.
The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.
Emphasis mine. In a nutshell a social market economy is a Realpolitik compromise between capitalism and market socialism, where private ownership of the means of production is tolerated but said ownership doesn’t entail complete power over it, through e.g. co-determination laws.
To make this more concrete, and maybe blow some Yank’s mind: Volkswagen’s employees elect 50% - 1 seats on the board. Together with shares held by Lower Saxony (usually run by a socdem government) they run the place, no matter how many shares the Porsche/Piëch clan and the Saudis have. It’s why VW itself worked towards unionising its own plant in Chattanooga, to the bewilderment of many. Sadly can’t unionise the plants in China the CCP hates it when workers have a say.
Ironic for China to not like unions.
Tankies gonna tank.
OMG they cat even communist properly.
Lucky you
Must be a different EU
TIL I’m emigrating to socialist EU.
No, the UK isn’t in the EU. Unless I’m misremembering your posts
I realize this. I was joking that the UK isn’t going to take up Trump’s economic model. It isn’t going to be like the EU either.
If you consider that European conservative parties are on the same political spectrum range as the US Democrats, and the US Republicans are basically the European neo-Nazis, this makes Americans see normal European social-Democratic parties as “communists”.
The American political spectrum has shifted to the right in ways that prepared the ground for Trumps coming Machtergreifung.
Remember how great Brexit was, they say.
Yes UK is an economic powerhouse now thanks Brexit
Britannia rules the waves.
I strongly recommend the UK focus on the US as a trading partner. It is obviously more sensible to ship your imports and exports to and from a market some 5000 km away, than to the market just 50 km away. Clearly your population will love fruits being either 2 weeks old at least or flown in. That fits the english taste best anyways.
Not to forget going with an ally as stable and consistent as Trump and his pack. I hope Britains like extortion.
Britons*
Slightly drunk, but I appreciate it 💖
Isn’t that what made them big back in the day?
*this time the receiving end
Americans talking about socialism is like teenagers talking about sex
Zero clue
It’s time for another episode of “Everything I Don’t Like Is Socialism” with Donnie Temper Tantrum!
Poor can work at the Mar-a-Lago for food or die in a gutter. That’s the American way.
Oh boy, he’s going after the NHS like he tried a couple of years ago. Brits need to fight this and don’t fall for our predatory private healthcare system that prioritizes money over human lives.
The US seems perfectly happy with socialism … for its corporate sector
Privatised profits, socialised losses.
I don’t mind working with the US even with Trump leading, but the EU is clearly a natural partner. They’re right at our doorstep.
Uh, Socialism please.
“Well we’re all out of Socialism. We only had three bits and we didn’t expect such a rush. So whaddaya want?”
What, so my choice is “or US free enterprise”?
Oh …well… then I’ll have the chicken.
“Tastes of human sir. Would you like a white wine?”
What is more worrying is what Trump thinks of the EU. This guy is a threat to democracy and international law.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
This world is completely screwed with politicians like Trump in power.
Yeah, of the world’s leaders vast majority of them are dictators or wannabe dictators. Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Modi, Netanyahu, Erdoğan, Orban and the list goes on.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
In there pursuit of being a more effective controlled opposition. Voters didn’t ask for this. Harris ran a conservative campaign and loss on that. Don’t let the democrats blame the left for their loss.
“US economic model.”
It’s capitalism. Unfettered capitalism.
Trumps knowledge of the EU is solely what Farage tells him. Or should I say, whispers to him after rubbing his belly.
“C’mon, guys, be fascist like us!”
So either embrace corporatism or be branded a commie he means?
I’ll take the branding.
