• pyre@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    this is not about junk food or eating healthy. it’s about environmental impact. your home cooked meat is still not environmentally friendly.

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      8 days ago

      So if I opt for not eating ultraprocessed vegetable matter nor meat and instead base my diet on fresh vegetables, grains and other unprocessed vegetable food sources I’m not being environmentally conscious?

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        10 days ago

        are you hoping to grow your own vegetables? then yes. if not, you’re still feeding the industry. it’s not like the environmental impact starts and ends with the processing.

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          10 days ago

          And now the concern is if I grow my own food. Before it was about between eating processed food over eating meat. For the sake of environmental impact.

          Where is the next goal post move to?

          If processed vegetable based foods are less impactful than meat, then unprocessed vegetables are even less impactful, considering we are removing an entire step (technically two) in the chain.

          Is this reasoning sound?

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            10 days ago

            Before it was about between eating processed food over eating meat

            no it wasn’t. you made that comment, and I specifically replied to tell you that this isn’t about that. it was you who moved your position from saying it doesn’t matter as long as you cook your own meals to saying how maybe you don’t even eat meat at all.

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              10 days ago

              My first comment was about skipping processed foods, as those should not even be considered a part of any diet, instead opting for cooking and thus having a healthy diet, with this being more relevant for people trying to have or already having meat exempt diets, while the focus on the posted content was how plant based “meat” is less impactful and by default good.

              In a cruder, more tongue-in-cheek fashion:

              Look everyone, now you can pretend you are having meat when not having meat while liying with all your teeth to yourself you actually changed to a better diet.

              Plant based “meat” is a marketing gimmick, not the deep cultural and ethical change it tries to sell itself as.

              I don’t say in any of my comments what my diet is or is not. What I do is ask, in a hypothetical fashion, if opting for a diet with no meat and only based in plant staples, with no processed foods in it, would I not have a less impactful diet, to which you responded by asking if I also intend to grow my own food, as if not, I wouldn’t be making any change at all.

              Am I being capable of following the thread of this conversation?

              Because I am aware what the focus of the post is, I only lack the will to applaude it as an advance.