Why Your Children Shouldn’t Be Your Own
nicholasdecker.substack.com
The case for elective gamete donation
  • Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsEnglish
    12·
    8 hours ago

    The justice of the argument is clear to me. I have already made arrangements for my children to come to not be genetically mine. When the time comes, I will call upon their aid, presuming the sequencing does not tell us there are incompatibilities; and we will select embryos to maximize the quality of life for my child to come.

    why are you talking like a necromancer

  • Architeuthis@awful.systemsEnglish
    9·
    3 hours ago

    The justice of the argument is clear to me. I have already made arrangements for my children to come to not be genetically mine. When the time comes, I will call upon their aid, presuming the sequencing does not tell us there are incompatibilities

    I like how that implies that he keeps a running genetic tally of all his acquaintances in case he needs to tap them for genetic material, which is not creepy at all.

    (Rorschach voice) Watched them today—parade their genetic blessings like medals earned in some cosmic lottery. Strong jawlines, symmetrical faces, eyes that catch the light just right. Retrieved 23AndMe card from alley behind 41st street. Admins restrained commenter screaming how it’s all just eugenics. Is everyone but me going mad?

  • self@awful.systemsMEnglish
    12·
    12 hours ago

    I will find someone who I consider better than me in relevant ways, and have them provide the genetic material. I think that it would be immoral not to, and that it is impossible not to think this way after thinking seriously about it.

    we’re definitely not a cult, I don’t know why anyone would think that

    Consider it from your child’s perspective. There are many people who they could be born to. Who would they pick? Do you have any right to deny them the father they would choose? It would be like kidnapping a child – an unutterably selfish act. You have a duty to your children – you must act in their best interest, not yours.

    I just don’t understand how so many TESCREAL thoughts and ideas fit this broken fucking pattern. “have you thought about <normal thing>? but have you really thought about it? you must not have cause if you did you would agree it was <severe crime>!”

    and you really can tell you’re dealing with a cult when you start from the pretense that a child that doesn’t exist yet has a perspective — these fucking weirdos will have heaven and hell by any means, no matter how much math and statistics they have to abuse past the breaking point to do it.

    and just like with any religious fundamentalist, the child doesn’t have any autonomy. how could they, if all their behavior has already been simulated to perfection? there’s no room for an imperfect child’s happiness; for familial bonding; for normal human shit. all that must be cope, cause it doesn’t fit into a broken TESCREAL worldview.

    • rook@awful.systemsEnglish
      9·
      8 hours ago

      I will find someone who I consider better than me in relevant ways,

      Lemme guess, rich, white, asshole? (now I write this, I realise it could be about the author of the blog post too, and not just the bull he’s seeking).

      These people continue to be so utterly delusional about the nature of success. The desperate need to believe that genetics is destiny, and that the ultra-wealthy got that way because they are also ultra-competent instead of merely being ultra-lucky and/or ultra-rapacious.

      I guess the future is a race to see what comes first… the ultra-wealthy habsburging themselves into oblivion, the oceans boiling, or a resurgence in the construction of hand-built artisanal tumbrels.

    • blakestacey@awful.systemsMEnglish
      10·
      11 hours ago

      “Consider it from the perspective of someone who does not exist and therefore has no preferences. Who would they pick?”

      • rook@awful.systemsEnglish
        8·
        9 hours ago

        Funny how right-wing types reaaaaaly love unborn kids. They’re the best focus group for almost any policy!

  • YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systemsEnglish
    11·
    14 hours ago

    Hat tip to the commenter over there who says point-blank “this is just eugenics.”

    Also gotta love the Rat community treating very contentious assumptions like settled fact, particularly re: heritability.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
      4·
      17 hours ago

      Sorry for the tangent, but does it drive anyone else crazy when people claim this didn’t exist/was never enacted? Humans with power suck, and feudalism wasn’t particularly rife with checks and balances.

      We know it happened because the idea and powerful men who were literally the law existed simultaneously.