T-800: “Wait, how can she like DS9 when it won’t launch for 2 more years?”
You really did love to hate her.
I mean… When it comes to villains it’s a bit weird. I like Kai Winn as a villain because she’s so hateable. If the bad guy doesn’t make you want to punch them in the face, they’re not a really good bad guy IMO.
I also like Naraku from Inuyasha because I hate him so much.
I think they made her relatable enough, she isn’t just a cartoonish villain, she has crisis of faith and feeling like abandoned by her gods.
Even Gul Dukat has some relatability, but then he is a charming fascist in the end.
Conner: “No, they really like Kai Winn.”
T-80: “…I’m calling CPS.”
*T-800
T-80, the attempt by the machines to keep humanity in check with care and love.
T-80: Lasted for 34 minutes before succumbing to crippling depression and taking itself permanently offline
Well, it looks like you all hated me so much that you’ve given me this award for it, and I’m loving every minute of it.
– Louise Fletcher when accepting the Oscar for playing Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
They couldn’t have found a better actress for that role. You could tell she was having a ball with it too.
I hear, like most people who play villains that are easy to hate, she was a real sweetheart in real life.
It takes a lot of empathy to understand hatred
That could be, but I also have to say as someone who has done it in VO roles that it is a lot of fun to play a villain because you get away with chewing a lot more scenery and your character is either so broadly-written that you can have fun with the broad choices or so complex that you have make a lot of fun with the details. And I know I personally have never played a role in between. I don’t know that the former really requires empathy, but you can still be hated for your roles when you play the former all the time.
I imagine at her level, which I was nowhere near, she got to have fun playing the complex villain whenever she wanted after that Oscar. And if I had her talent, I would too.
Won’t ask about roles or anything, but can you say what your favorite character was? Like, in a non identifying way?
God I love Louise Fletcher though
You’ve got to love an actor that can do such a good villain.
I read somewhere that’s why Dukat just kept getting more and more obviously evil as the show went on - Marc Alaimo was so charismatic that people were empathising with him too much.
He almost sold the occupation to me. Bajor, a fractured society, technologically stagnant, riddled with inefficiencies, gifted with order, infrastructure, and industrialization from the Cardassian People.
Fascism isn’t so bad right?
She is awesome… awesomely villainous! 😎
Example number 1000 why mimetic polyalloy is inferior to a changeling.
Changelings do a little research before copying someone. Not this lazy bullshit that terminators do. Hell Miles didn’t even realize that his husband had been replaced by a changeling and they hung out for weeks.
Well…TBF the T-1000 didn’t exactly have 2 years and an expansive intelligence network to work from. And the only reason John Connor was alive to that point is he had a T-800 protecting him. In the span of a couple hours the T-1000 tracked JC to the arcade and almost turned him into swiss cheese if Model 101 didn’t show up at that exact moment.
I’m sure many of us have seen the director’s cut, or at least the deleted scene after this conversation where the T-1000 goes outside and kills the dog because he won’t stop barking…and finds his real name on the collar.
I’m not fully up on Terminator lore, but aren’t they from the future? Seems like they could probably have a pretty good idea on most things just from stored data
Terminator 2 was made and set in the early 90s from what I remember. There was no stored data for most things, and if there was, it probably wouldn’t have survived the nuclear bombs that started the war with the machines
Fully agreed. This was before the ubiquity of the Internet and mass storage of data.
Although the T-1000 could have, and probably should have, at least given the house a once over
I’d think they were already mass storing data at that point. Just your typical person wouldn’t have access to it over the internet. You’d think a terminator could access those networks though.
Of course I think this scene was using the dog’s name? Probably your dog’s name wasn’t in the Publisher’s Clearing House mainframe tapes, like it would later be available on Facebook.
Well they would have storage of key data points like criminal history, citizen level data, social security/tax stuff and disconnected medical data. But it’s not something a T-1000 would be able to easily plug into a phone jack and get all in 1 quick swoop.
Major plot point was using a phone book to find people. There wasn’t much stored data back then.
Medical records for example mostly only go back to around mid 90’s digitally.
I feel like much of my life has been a waste because I haven’t been apart of this debate before. Mimetic Polyallow ftw because you don’t have that long lead time.
I laughed way more than I should have when I saw a variation of this where the mom was a programmer and the trick was peer code reviews
What she did? Actually reviewed the code?
How do you check for this over a phone call?
Any answer different from LGTM means his parents are dead. You can communicate the code in any way you want, even reading it out loud.
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