• stevedice@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        3 days ago

        Yes. You don’t get to redefine a word just because you don’t like it. Incel does and always did mean that.

        • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          Oh please. Using Wikipedia as a source while knowing entries are provided by individuals. Here’s all of Wiktionary’s definitions of the word:

          A member of an online subculture of people (mostly men) who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

          (rare) An individual who is not sexually active despite having such a desire.

          (uncountable, seduction community, informal) “Involuntary celibacy”: the state of being not sexually active despite wishing to be.

          Incel is not a gendered word. Even females can be incels.

            • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              3 days ago

              Clearly you’re the one who lacks reading skills if you didn’t see that 1). The involuntary celibacy project was started by a woman, and 2). It was initially meant for lonely people struggling to find love. Any other meaning attached to the term is a matter of stereotype.

              This is like saying feminism = misandrist because a lot of people that identify with the term hate men. Cmon man, do better.

              • stevedice@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                3 days ago

                Careful there, you’re gonna run out of straw. The woman who started the project also denounced it because it became a breeding ground for bitter, virgin men resentful of women that turned their anger into misogyny. You really don’t seem to know how language works. Grow up.

                • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  🤦

                  You haven’t even disagreed with my point. Denouncing it doesn’t change the original intent of the incel movement. If you go back and read the definitions i provided, it is clear that women can be incels as well, so saying it’s a misogynistic group is oxymoronic. Like i said, it would be akin writing off feminism as misandrism because many feminists hate men.

                  It’s about the origins of the term and not what it has come to be associated with.

                  • stevedice@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    3 days ago

                    Women can be misogynistic, you absolute muppet. I don’t need to disagree with your point because you don’t have one, you just don’t understand how language works.