• RAP@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Sounds familiar. An european EV with a claimed range of 400km in the winter required a total of 3h30min charging time on a trip of 600km. Real range was about 350km, in the winter less than 300km (heating the cabin and having the thermal pump on full speed to prevent the windows from freezing). Battery did not receive charge with claimed charging speed although it was preheated.

    It took 11 hours for EV to finish the trip that takes a bit less than 7 hours on a gas car, two families travelling the same trip with different cars, lunch and coffee break included. And return trip will take even longer due to charging the EV is not an option in the destination.

    With bad luck it takes 13 hours on return if charging stations are occupied after christmas when everyone are traveling back after the holidays, you only need one charging station to be occupied.

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      2 days ago

      Not my experience at all, my EV has an even smaller range and we just did 1300km across Europe to come visit the family for Christmas, yes it was a bit of extra break times with the low-ish range of my e208 (340km official, much much less real range on highway in winter). There’s so many chargers now you can definitely avoid full ones, apps show you if it’s full before you get there. But I never had it yet that it was completely full/had to wait. Charging time always super quick and by the time we walk to the shops, toilet break and get a coffee we’re good to go, sometimes we take more time than the car need when the little one needs to play. For the rest of the time there’s always chargers nearby and in every day driving I never feel range anxiety, I do wish I had an extra 30min highway time before charging which I think I’ll have in the summer. I think if you’d have one of the newer EVs with even faster charging and insane range I don’t see how you could struggle at all.

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        1 day ago

        Welcome to Canada, the world isn’t the same all over. Winter where we’re at means -30° and your range becomes shit no matter what you drive.

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          20 hours ago

          Yes cold does affect range and needs to be taken into account. But I have a family member that drives a Hyundai Kona for a 1h highway commute in Quebec, drives it back and forth without charging there all through the harsh Québec winter, charging it at home with that sweet clean hydro electricity. Her colleague drives a Tesla. Sure seems EVs still work there.

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            17 hours ago

            Wow! 1h in traffic! 😱

            250km straight without a charging station, you need a car with a 500km range in the summer to reliably make it though with the heater set to the bare minimum so the windows don’t become covered in ice.

            I never said they don’t work at all and my mother drives her 50km daily commute on electricity no problem, but we have places in our province that are just completely empty for distances you don’t see in Europe because of the density.

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              16 hours ago

              Yeah no for sure if you’re anywhere further north it gets real sparse and I get that for those situations it’s probably not realistic, 250km no mans land definitely would require careful planning even in a recent EV in Canadian winter but also most the pop doesn’t live there or face that issue, also most families have two vehicles or more so one of them can be electric fire exemple, perfect is the enemy of good. The other comment was talking about Europe so I responded on that since that’s where I drive my EV.

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      1 day ago

      She’s taking my cousin’s car and her car will be brought back on a trailer because she probably won’t make it from charging station to charging station in the middle of the trip.