The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.
Be prepared to spend more on trucks. Ford makes their seats in Canada
Nearly 90 million voting eligible Americans chose to not vote at all with a confirmed white supremacist, rapist and convicted felon on the ballot.
Many of us warned that if he won, democracy would end forever.
Cool so I guess it will be BRIMCCS now.
SCRIMBC (its Pronunciation will be “SKRIM-bik”) easier on the tongue
This’ll really help the price of eggs
Did no one watch “How It’s Made”?
That’s how I found out what goods are made in Canada.
Like, you know, gum. Fucking bubble gum. The smallest-possible, easiest-to-make, most-ubiquitous thing. Found in every convenience store, drug store, newsstand, and vending machine.
Do we make that in the States? Nooo… we gotta import that shit from our neighbors to the North. Like, do we make anything here?
We do but NAFTA really made things spread out. We’ve made a lot more progress unifying the North American economies than people think. This is going to be ten times as painful as Brexit was for the British. And to undo it Mexico and Canada are going to demand we take on a trade deficit with them as a way of helping their economies in case the deal goes south with the president after whoever is fixing this mess.
Not the raised lettering on every toy saying ‘made in china’?
We make double trouble here. Double bubble is too tame
companies
They very nicely slipped a Nuremberg defense reference in there.
In IT it’s called the scream test. You unplug it and see who screams.
Here’s some hints…the lumber we need to build houses, the oil we use to power/heat those houses and transport goods around the country (so, anything that spends time on a semi or delivery truck) and cement. So anyone that needs to purchase things that’s are transported or wants a house should be piping up soon.
I love how they didn’t even exempt heating oil for the northern states. They acknowledged that tariffing it was fucked up by only doing a 10 percent tariff on it but it didn’t cross their minds to just exempt it. A ten percent price increase on heating is going to literally kill people.
Natural gas for heating.
I have literally done this. Had a VM I didn’t know who owned in my lab, so I turned it off to see who complained or if it was really unnecessary. 3 min later I get a slack message asking if a VM was running.
Never heard of the scream test in 40 years of software dev, but I like it.
That’s because it’s the ops guys who turn off all your sites.
Sounds like you need to live life more dangerously.
I’ve been in IT Operations for 8 years and do this practice but first I’ve heard of ‘scream test’ as well
Maybe it’s more common with databases and reporting? I’ve seen this a million times over the years with removing tables or reports. Then again, it’s possible I’ve only worked in places with poor data governance.
My favorite
This doesn’t even have to be The Onion, but just straight news. This is exactly how it is going to work.
I saw some of the dipshit commenters on a WSJ article giving examples of things affected and how their prices might change - lots of “Well, I don’t need these things, and paying 5 cents more for making brown people suffer is worth it, anyway!”
Yeah, I guess we will see…
But the twist is that it still won’t be portrayed as Trump’s fault. Unfair Canada declares war for no reason or whatever.
Oh, without a doubt. I’ve already seen some of their ridiculous people try to prep their stupid base with “…but it will be worth it” kind of narratives. I bet you’ll hear more than a few of the marks parrot this idiocy.
It’s not Americans choosing this. Its our dictator, Felonious 47
you can’t get out of it this time. he won the popular vote. not voting is voting.
He didn’t win, vote-suppression won.
Besides you could argue the non-vote were the more popular choice because people are fed up with FPTP-voting.
We still own this as a country. Any other attitude risks not making the necessary changes to prevent this in the future.
that’s not an unknown. vote suppression has always been a thing. especially dem voters know this. I’m not talking about the voters; I’m talking about non voters. you don’t show up, you vote for whoever comes up. vote suppression did not suppress 86 million votes.
I voted.
that’s good on your part, but you’re not the American people. the people voted for mango mussolini, and that’s exactly what they got. in elections past I would agree with you. but not this time.
Same sentiment here.
First time, maybe people weren’t paying attention, maybe they wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe they really hated the Clinton dynasty, and to be fair he lost the popular vote by millions. Ok, you guys got screwed, learn the lesson and move on.
Second time, there was all the precedent: disastrous covid handling (hundreds of thousands of excess deaths), ruined economy, absolute international clown show, hiring his family, all the golf (at his properties), racism, sharpies, crowd sizes, all the testimonials of his incompetence from anyone working with him, his own VP not endorsing him… And the crimes. And the treason. And the porn star. And Project 2025. And not only he won again, but this time he got the popular vote. The American people made their bed, and instead of pillows they used a face eating leopard.
Winning the popular vote doesn’t mean everyone voted for him. Besides, realistically he didn’t even do that.
I guess you missed the part where OP wrote “NOT VOTING IS VOTING”.
In the 2020 election, 81,283,501 people voted for Biden while 74,223,975 voted for Trump.
In the 2024 election, 75,017,613 voted for Harris, while 77,302,580 voted for Trump.
Thata 155,507,476 - 152,230,193 = 3,187,283 fewer people voting.
Biden got 81.2m votes vs Harris getting 75m votes… in other words, people who showed up to vote for Biden in 2020 sat out and didn’t vote in 2024, which directly resulted in Trump winning.
Not voting is voting, get it now?
I commented saying that I don’t think Trump got 77,302,580 votes. Get it now? Bringing up Bidens and Harris’s vote count is irrelevant.
are you claiming election fraud?
that’s ridiculous but either way you’re missing the point.
he got more than 77 million votes. close to 86 million people didn’t vote. like it or not, that’s still 86 million votes.
not voting isn’t a way to say “I don’t like either one”, it says “I’m on board with whoever wins by people who actually show up”. so that’s a vote for mango mussolini. would’ve been for Harris if that 1.6% margin swung the other way, but it didn’t.
so essentially he got the stamp of approval of around 160 million people.
Americans did not. An orange fascist, who Americans also did not ask for, did
Nope, I’m sorry but as a country we absolutely did.
Americans allowed this prick to pursue a political career. Any sane country would’ve laughed him into oblivion.
he won the popular vote this time, so they did ask for it. sorry.
Americans didn’t chose this.
This must be a yank version of the no true Scotsman fallacy.
It’s people trying to absolve themselves of their civic responsibility.
Naah. It’s just the less nuanced version of the blanket false accusations suck statement that I’ve already made several times now.
I didn’t vote for him. Therefore, not ALL Americans chose this.
Nobody said ALL Americans chose this… But the majority did. He won the majority vote. America as a whole chose this. The first time around, you could argue that since the lost the popular vote by millions, that America didn’t choose him. But not this time. This time, America chose him and said it with their whole chest.
And sure, you could argue that “didn’t vote” actually won. But that’s still on the American public for refusing to actually get to the polls. If they cared enough to avoid it, they would have voted instead of staying home. But they didn’t care, and their non-vote said “I’m okay with either side. Doesn’t matter to me.”
Of course not all. But the US electorate as a body produced this decision. When your congress passes a law or your supreme court makes a decision do you not say that “the congress” passed a law or “the supreme court” made a judgement? I doubt you constantly say “a bit more than half the congress passed a law #notallcongresspeople”.
Or, when, say France has an election, do you not say “the french elected Macron”? Or do you always nuance it by “this or that percentage of the french elected him”?
Americans did choose this.
Either by directly voting for him or looking at the choices and deciding not to participate.
Saying “Americans” indicates the intent was to accuse ALL Americans of supporting trump. That’s demonstrably false. And I believe that blanket statements should be called out when they are wrong.
I am an American. That makes me part of the term “Americans” when it’s spoken. I did not vote for him. Therefore, saying American chose this is wrong.
I mean, if there was some type of legitimate rigging of the election in PA or whatever Trump was referring to with Elon being smart with computers (or whatever that was), then you’d be correct. However, if we’re to assume the outcome of the votes is 100% legitimate, then Americans did in fact vote for this based on the outcome. It’s not meant to include every individual vote, just the outcome of the whole.
No, saying you chose this is wrong but saying that Americans chose this is correct because he was democratically elected.
No, if the election was fair, he would have lost. In fact, he would probably be in jail by now. The Republicans have been disenfranchising people for decades including by passing laws and limiting access to voting, there’s heavy gerrymandering, disinformation campaigns, etc., etc.
The results of the election are not based on a fair election. Some people actively voted for this, either because they’re bad people or willfully ignorant, but many people couldn’t vote. For many people who did vote, their vote didn’t count the way it should (gerrymandering). Education funds and topics have been cut for decades. People aren’t taught how to think critically, and check to see if news they read is factual. Some of this has been going on for decades and we’re seeing the compounded results of those tactics.
So, no, America did not vote for this. We were shoehorned into it and now blamed for it. Fuck that noise. We’re all at the mercy of these assholes and need to fight back.
As if Americans didn’t hand the White House to Republicans every few years knowing full well they are the party of gerrymandering, vote suppression and racism
You cannot now pretend they are victims of happenstance
Through ignorance, bigotry and mostly apathy, Americans as a whole, chose this
No. That is a minority of people. Don’t forget that cuts to education (connected learning critical thinking and being able to find reputable information sources), gerrymandering, and changes to laws have been happening for decades. There is some apathy, sure, but most isn’t apathy–it’s learned helplessness. No matter what they do, nothing changes.
You want to be mad at America? Good! I’m American and I’m mad at America. Let’s not pretend that this all happened in a vacuum and there weren’t any influences on why this happened. I don’t blame everyone for all of this. I blame the oligarchs, mostly, but there have been specific people in key positions making this happen. Many people were just manipulated. If your education is poor, your opportunities are few, and nothing you do makes anything better, you might change your vote once in a while. Sad, but true.
There is some apathy, sure, but most isn’t apathy–it’s learned helplessness. No matter what they do, nothing changes.
show me what they did and we can start discussing liability here
He won based on the current rules.
Does that make it all of America’s fault? If they make the rules and then win ONLY because of the rules, that doesn’t make it everyone’s fault. It makes it the fault of the people who made the rules. Don’t be obtuse. They want everyone to blame everyone else instead of blaming them. We have to come together or this shit will destroy civilization.
Election rules don’t come out of a vacuum, the people made them.
The fact Americans have gerrymandering is insane. But I want to point out that Tronald Dump won popular vote, too
Some polling places were closed, forcing those people to vote elsewhere. Not everyone can wait in long lines for hours. There were disinformation campaigns about vote by mail and many people were worried those votes wouldn’t be counted because of it. I don’t know if I heard confirmation it occurred on election day, but I read news stories about voter intimidation because of groups of armed men. They employed tons of tactics to suppress voting.
If you suppress everyone who disagrees with you from voting, of course you’re going to win the popular vote.
Did he technically win the popular vote and the general election, yes, it appears he did, but 51% or more of people who could have voted did not support this shit. Not to mention he lied. He lied. Yes, he said he’d do some of this, but he also said he’d bring down the price of groceries, make better health care, and make America great again (firing thousands of government employees who did nothing wrong is not making anything great). He has no intention of bringing down grocery prices or fixing health care. He’s getting rid of competent people and replacing them with loyalists.
You can vote by mail there, there’s no excuse for people not to vote at such a scale, except for tacit agreement of whatever outcome may be.
Don’t see riots though. Especially one would assume it’s time to riot now when it’s unambiguously clear he was lying. Yeah, there are few protests about specific laws/orders but not against president. Americans seem to be fine having shameless lair in charge so far
I suppose that’s a fair point. It comes down to perception I guess. Maybe it’s best described as “some” Americans chose this.
The headline is just vaguely misleading enough to fuel the anti-American ideology even further. Because as we’ve seen right here on lemmy, there are people stupid enough to believe that the entire country supports everything that criminal does.
I suppose that’s a fair point. It comes down to perception I guess. Maybe it’s best described as “some” Americans chose this
How about: “Most Americans who bother voting, chose this. The majority of the rest couldn’t be bothered trying to vote knowing full well it would result in a trump presidency anyway”
Accurate enough?
The scores of “don’t blame me / don’t blame all of us” comments ring hollow.
If Americans want to convince Canadians that they don’t want what the person elected to represent them wants then I expect to see “support Canada” rallies in every democrat-leaning city across the country.
Even if it did absolutely nothing to solve the problem it would at least fill me with a hope that a few people actually give a damn.
It’s the exact same thing as saying Americans voted in Obama, it’s not meant to be a statement that’s correct for every individual.
Oh I know, I’d probably take issue with that as well. I just hate blanket statements.
You hate all blanket statements?
Those who voted certainly did. Those who chose to not vote did also. I don’t live in America but it was incredibly obvious this was coming. America chose to be represented by by this guy who said quite clearly what he was going to do.
And everything that’s happened so far was clearly spelled out in the project 2025 document. But people don’t read and now they’re all Pikachu face surprised.
“Surely the leopards won’t eat my face!”
His owner/donor fElon said as much, too. That we are going to suffer, but it will be worth it (to billionaires, I’m sure, not to the peasants he thinks need to “live within their means”).
Wait, I voted for Harris, but I chose this?
I’m talking about America as a country, not you as an individual. I understand your frustration - I went through Brexit as someone who voted to remain and very definitely didn’t vote for a government that chose Boris Johnson as a leader.
It never ceases to disappoint me that people could look at Boris fucken Johnson or Donald duck and think “yup, that’s da fella I want to lead us”.
I understand. There’s definitely a lot of frustration.
You may not have chose this but too many around you did. I believe if you’re not okay with what’s happening you have a responsibility to make noise and tell those around you that nonsense like this has to stop.
Apparently we all did. Outside of individually storming the white house and getting shot in the process, turns out all of us might as well have been sitting on our thumbs. I mean really,how exactly were we supposed to counter some of the absolute dumbest people on the planet that might as well have marked a ballot with a crayon?
americans, as a whole group, did choose this… you specifically might not have and i applaud you for that decision
however the country that you live in DID choose this, and it wasn’t even like he lost the popular vote this time
americans chose this
and everyone globally has to live with it
and everyone globally will choose how to insulate ourselves from it - once is a joke; twice means it’s really what your country as a whole chooses with eyes wide open. this wasn’t a fluke: this is america
and then, i guess we will see what happens, but im going to be cheering on the australian government every time they pull away from the US from now on. i’m going to be cancelling US subscriptions and buying non-US product alternatives. i’m going to be pirating all US media
Umm what was all that noise and wind about back in November then?
You mean all the bots and edgelord kids telling everyone not to vote against trump, and instead vote third party? Or did you mean all the bots and edgelord kids that shouted at everyone to stay home in protest?
Because if it wasn’t either of these two- I saw a lot of people urging others to vote for Harris. Otherwise known as the one person that had a chance to defeat trump. All while warning them of what would happen if they didn’t.
And if I recall correctly- those warnings looked a lot like what’s happening right fucking now.
MANY of us didn’t choose this. So don’t blame all of America for this shit. Be precise- blame the asshole single-issue dipshits that protested their way into a trump victory…There’s all still around-
Go on… Be my guest.
No. See, you don’t personally get to write the narrative.
Here’s how it is:
You are in the “United” states until you tell us otherwise. You are the ones renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. You are the ones who, by majority vote, decided that this was to be our world and our future.
Your people. Your culture. Your country. Your leader. Your choices.
Fucking own it. And if you don’t like it, or this response, FUCKING STAND UP AND CHANGE IT. But don’t ask ME to give a wet slap about your feelings or the when it is your country is an imperial expansionist empire trying to kick over anthills. I don’t owe you that courtesy and I’m disinclined to politeness of late towards my Southern neighbors.
Do you, when you reflect on history, make such subtle distinctions? For example did Germany start world war 1 and 2 or should we defer to the feelings of the objectors to those conflicts when ascribing cause?
Dumbass.
I see you’re very concerned with third party voters. (Again) How much progress have you made replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state? You do want to solve the spoiler effect problem right?
Nows the time to dig in and fight for the reform that would resolve your issues with people voting outside the two party system.
Here are some videos to help you out. Best of luck to you.
Videos on Electoral Reform
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
As if the Republicans would entertain any though about a fairer election process.
only half of them
Less than half in fact. Surprisingly, more than a third of our voting body didn’t vote. And that’s how he won.
If you didn’t vote then you chose this.
100% agree.
One third of Americans (non voters) were happy to watch whilst another third (MAGAts) attempts to murder
the other thirdeveryone.Well, that’s only counting the voting collective of Americans. Not the entire population. Sadly, there are a lot of people not of voting age or ineligible to vote that are counted.
Point remains though.
Those who didn’t vote don’t matters. I don’t know why we’re supposed to acknowledge their existence in these discussions. In every way that actually matters, Americans chose this.
Soooo…. all of Germany chose Hitler? Of course they didn’t.
I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.
Funny, you don’t have a problem using blanket statements about who elected Trump when discussing people who don’t like the Democrats (regardless of how those people actually voted ), but you get upset at blanket statements that put the blame on all Americans. Isn’t that interesting?
Blanket statements that put the blame on Americans that voted against trump? Yeah… I have a huge problem with that.
We actually tried to stop this.
The statement “Americans chose this” does not mean or imply that all Americans chose this but congrats on being trivially right in a pedantic and irrelevant way. Most voters chose this, and that is the only thing that matters .
I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.
Yeah I’ll definitely keep your delicate feelings at the forefront of my mind as your leaders madness starts destroying my country next week.
Right. And you be sure to keep blaming those that voted for the one person that had the chance to stop him while you’re at it because that’ll sure help a lot towards my keeping your delicate feelings in mind while he’s destroying your country next week.
I tried to stop this shit. I did the right thing. Don’t bring this shit to my doorstep.
With reading comprehension that poor no wonder Trump is loved there. No one’s blaming you.
…You do, of course, know Hitler didn’t actually win, right?
You do of course, understand that’s not what I asked, right?
