- cross-posted to:
- fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I prefer phtn.app on desktop. IMO Voyager is themed too muck like an iPhone app even on android.
I think the issue is that there’s choice. People want the simplest, most streamlined route.
If there was one signup that in the background picked your Lemmy World based on signup questions (IE location and Subs you are interested in), plus a main app to go with it, then it would be more tempting.
Also, Lemmy also looks identical to Reddit which is great for people who want to decentralise. But to the majority of users…it’s just a Reddit clone with a smaller userbase. Why switch?
Keep it simple, whilst introducing something fresh
“Owned by its users?”
Come on man, how many of us pay for the servers, and how many admins do we actually elect?
This is another reddit, with the benefit that we can jump to a neighbouring clone to stop the admins from getting too uppity.
That’s it, and I love it.
I pay monthly to my admin!
I would argue that feddit.uk is still registered under someone’s name, and that the server is owned by someone. If that one person wants to sellout X years from now, they fully can
I was just talking about the funding. A number of users do pay for the servers, because of the relatively low cost of running an instance a small percentage of them cover all the bills.
On ownership, that’s the way of the beast on what usually start out as hobby instances. I’m sure as things mature and grow a lot of us will move to establish nonprofits.
Worth noting that, for feddit.uk, I run the server and GA runs the domains, so we’d both have to agree to a sell-out. Also we didn’t start the instance, just took it over when the original Admin went AWOL, so we’ve successfully transferred the assets before and, if Lemmy lasts long enough, we’ll do it again as we get too decrepit to keep things going.
The funding is key to this as it is all done through Open Collective, so it isn’t in an Admin’s bank account and so changing Admins is straightforward on that front.
Oh, I have to admit that the OpenCollective funding model is a very nice way of keeping things level.
That’s an inevitable part of community, it requires trust. Users need to trust admins not to mess around with the service and admins need to trust users to not make maintaining the service untenable.
Federation also helps balance the dynamic here as admins can’t hold the community hostage like they can on closed systems.
how many admins do we actually elect?
You elect them by using their instance
That’s a really fair point
Ehhh… if you mean one can port their post and comment history to another instance, then, no [1][1.1]. If you mean one can port their account settings to another instance, then yes [2][1.1].
References
- Title [Issue]: “Allow instance migration for communities and users” #3057. Author: Popkornium18. Publisher: LemmyNet/Lemmy. GitHub. Published: 2023-06-13T05:37:30.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-08T02:35Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3057.
- [Comment]: Author: Nutomic. Published: 2023-10-20T11:30:45.000Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3057#issuecomment-1772569725.
This is implemented for users via export/import settings feature. […]
- [Comment]: Author: Nutomic. Published: 2023-10-20T11:30:45.000Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3057#issuecomment-1772569725.
- Website: sh.itjust.works. Lemmy. Accessed: 2025-02-09T06:18Z. URI: https://sh.itjust.works/.
- Profile Menu>“Settings”>“Import/Export Settings”
- Profile Menu>“Settings”>“Import/Export Settings”
The main point is being able to still access all of the communities if your admin goes rogue (similar to what Reddit is doing). That’s possible on Lemmy, you export / import your settings and you’re set.
Keep the same username, add a link to your new and old profiles and the bio, and you just moved instances. You may have lost your comments history, but there is no karma anyway, so why care? And it’s still accessible on your old account.
Does it keep your list of blocked communities?
Yes. Subscriptions and all blocklists (users, instances, communities)
Thank god for that! My blocked list is so long it’s probably worth money.
Export it now as a backup, you never know!
- Title [Issue]: “Allow instance migration for communities and users” #3057. Author: Popkornium18. Publisher: LemmyNet/Lemmy. GitHub. Published: 2023-06-13T05:37:30.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-08T02:35Z. URI: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3057.
Another confusingly named community.
You missed a very interesting brainstorming session. Still less confusing than having !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net and !fedigrow@lemm.ee next to each other
That’s what I was referring to.
You’d expect a community named fedibridge to be about https://fed.brid.gy/.
But this product is called BridgyFed, there isn’t any community about it, and most of the people on Lemmy don’t like Bluesky or ATProto
Most discussions are happening on !bluesky@lemm.ee , so confusion should be minimal
If someone wants a backup account you can try my unbackupped server lemmy.mindoki.com too.
It’s backuped but it might take time if something breaks, just so you know.