• Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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    As Haldane said, they printed too much for too long and kept rates too low.

    As did the Fed and ECB…

    Thanks for the condescending tone, I’m not listening to any government script. I listen to fund and asset managers, the bearish ones have been saying this for years.

    The govt didn’t have to let the energy shock into the economy, France and others didn’t, so that is on them as they didn’t use policy to address it sufficiently.

    Truss and Kwasi announcing unfunded tax cuts to bond whales sealed their fate.

    Perhaps a chart of M2 explains it better. Carney left less headroom pre COVID.

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      The spike in 2016 was in response to Brexit. How is Brexit the fault of the BOE. Truss and Kwazi were after Carney left as was the energy crisis. You have conspiracy theoritus and absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You are latching onto threads with no substance.

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      The govt didn’t have to let the energy shock into the economy, France and others didn’t, so that is on them as they didn’t use policy to address it sufficiently.

      France’s energy mix contains significantly less gas, when compared to the UK. They barely use any for electricity generation, see below, compared to the UK where gas is ~40% of our annual mix.

      http://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/france/ https://www.mygridgb.co.uk/historicaldata/

      That is why France was better insulated from a supply side gas shock.

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          And EDF were able to cap prices at 4% because of their nuclear infrastructure which meant the cost of subsidising that 4% cap was considerably less than the equivalent would have been in the UK.

          As always, context is important.

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              https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/ES

              Spain uses a lot of gas, and prices have increased substantially. Between 2017 and 2019 the price per MWh hovered around €50, in 2020 it fell to €34. In 2021 it jumped to €112, and 2022 to €167.

              The government started removing excess profits in 2021 - see here - and more recently are also subsidising the cost to generators where needed, see here. This was at the peak of Spain’s inflation, which reached 10% and then fell back to a more typical level, see here.

              They have not been able to isolate themselves the same way France have, and are in a situation much closer to the UK with regards to reliance on gas, but through better economic management within Spain and across the eurozone now have lower inflation.

              Edit: speeeeling.

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                  That context is important and ignoring it means you keep making easily falsifiable claims, like saying the energy crisis didn’t impact other countries. I have now both shown, and explained to, you why that is wrong, and so my work here is done.

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                    Lol, I didn’t say that though.

                    I said the UK, Netherlands and Belgium let the energy shock into the economy whilst other countries used price caps to keep it out.

                    I then provided a source that detailed the approach on a country by country basis

                    You then started quoting random stuff about Spain and France