Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We’ve come far, and have further to go!

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      9 months ago

      besides this, China did a huge job on getting people out of poverty - if you like or not

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        9 months ago

        Mass producing shit at inhuman factories with deaths by the millions. I guess you’re not poor if you’re just dead.

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          9 months ago

          Look at the statistics. I am not lying. You can complain, but that are facts.

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            What statistics? The one the CCP made up? Over a quarter of chinese are still in extreme poverty and a huge amount of chinese still have an income of under 1500 yuan a month.
            Sure, they might have lifted some people out of poverty, but they also put them into poverty in the first place under mao. So celebrating this is kind of self congratulatory.

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              9 months ago

              You can google it. It takes just a few seconds. I think you can handle it… If I search it for you, you wouldn’t believe it.

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                  9 months ago

                  LOL!

                  “Elsewhere in the region, Vietnam has also seen a dramatic fall in extreme poverty rates over a similar period. Another large country, India, had 22% of its population living below the international poverty line in 2011 (the most recent data available). Brazil has 4.4% of its people earning less than $1.90 a day.”

                  How many people has the US lifted out of poverty? How many people has Britain lifted out of poverty? How many has any state in the EU lifted out of poverty? And france isn’t even mentioned in the article. Vietnam is btw. socialistic.

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            Maybe I’m too naive, but even if you hate a country for its economic and political choices, you can still be glad their working class population is getting out of poverty and It’s not like they are getting richer by slaving a whole continent

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              9 months ago

              Yeah… you can like some things and still hate everything else about it. Not everything is black or white - but some don’t like grey-scales.

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        Yeah, because they finally decided to adopt a free market model, and suddenly “starving people in China” was less of a thing.

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    9 months ago

    the last two are easily debunked. I hate shit like this because it reinforces an idea that time = progress. There are influential and powerful people alive today who would reverse any of these trends if it meant money in their pocket.

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    The extreme poverty one is laughable especially when criteria to define extreme poverty is ridiculous. Extreme poverty in places where you earn less than $1.90 but can still have subsistence farming and community doesn’t make sense - also if living in San Francisco and earning $2/day isn’t extreme poverty… I don’t know what is.

    Poverty shouldn’t be tied to capital but to standards of living - that would be a completely different story.

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    9 months ago

    It’s not like we don’t still have problems to fix, but always only focusing on them doesn’t show just how far we’ve come.

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      The real problem with ignoring progress we’ve made is that it gives the false impression that what we’re doing is worthless, leading to demands to tear down everything we’re doing.

      People are constantly clamoring to replace our systems with new ones “that actually work”. This is a result of being blind to the ways our current system works.