Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We’ve come far, and have further to go!

    • Guildo@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      besides this, China did a huge job on getting people out of poverty - if you like or not

      • No_@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        Mass producing shit at inhuman factories with deaths by the millions. I guess you’re not poor if you’re just dead.

        • Guildo@feddit.de
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          10 months ago

          Look at the statistics. I am not lying. You can complain, but that are facts.

          • Nobsi@feddit.de
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            10 months ago

            What statistics? The one the CCP made up? Over a quarter of chinese are still in extreme poverty and a huge amount of chinese still have an income of under 1500 yuan a month.
            Sure, they might have lifted some people out of poverty, but they also put them into poverty in the first place under mao. So celebrating this is kind of self congratulatory.

            • Guildo@feddit.de
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              10 months ago

              You can google it. It takes just a few seconds. I think you can handle it… If I search it for you, you wouldn’t believe it.

                • Guildo@feddit.de
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                  10 months ago

                  LOL!

                  “Elsewhere in the region, Vietnam has also seen a dramatic fall in extreme poverty rates over a similar period. Another large country, India, had 22% of its population living below the international poverty line in 2011 (the most recent data available). Brazil has 4.4% of its people earning less than $1.90 a day.”

                  How many people has the US lifted out of poverty? How many people has Britain lifted out of poverty? How many has any state in the EU lifted out of poverty? And france isn’t even mentioned in the article. Vietnam is btw. socialistic.

                  • Nobsi@feddit.de
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                    10 months ago

                    The US didnt have to lift X people out of poverty because it never had this problem in the first place. The US didnt let millions die in famines. There is also no other country boasting about how many people they got to a survivable state since 1980.

                    How well is your understanding of english? We already discussed what you think is a counterargument before you came up with it.

                    The fact that you dont understand why i chose france shows that your understanding of these arguments and the underlying reasons are too high for you.

                    Let me rephrase it for a 5 year old.
                    France had royalty and many rich people but also many many poor people. Those lived under poverty. They then killed the royalty and reshaped france. Now france is better and those people were not in poverty anymore. Does this make sense to you?

          • Calavera@lemm.ee
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            9 months ago

            Maybe I’m too naive, but even if you hate a country for its economic and political choices, you can still be glad their working class population is getting out of poverty and It’s not like they are getting richer by slaving a whole continent

            • Guildo@feddit.de
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              9 months ago

              Yeah… you can like some things and still hate everything else about it. Not everything is black or white - but some don’t like grey-scales.

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        Yeah, because they finally decided to adopt a free market model, and suddenly “starving people in China” was less of a thing.

            • Guildo@feddit.de
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              10 months ago

              I think you wrote Bot wrong… But who knows? I am just a Bot. Beep Boop Boop. I am a Bot.

                  • Nobsi@feddit.de
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                    10 months ago

                    You’re literally spouting ccp propaganda and downplaying chinas involvement in the poverty of the ones they allegwdly got out of poverty. Also you do not even understand the srticles you post. The poverty line that china is supposedly lifting people out of is 1 dollar a day. That is the poverty line of a third world country. China is not a third world country.