They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws. That doesn’t make sense as beliefs are the foundations of laws. But dangerous beliefs like Nazism and Zionism ought to be illegal
They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws.
That’s not what I meant. I am saying you shouldn’t be arrested simply for holding a belief. Not until you commit an action such as assault, murder, torture, forced labor, or one of a million other things that Nazis do should you be arrested. Being racist shouldn’t be illegal. You should have the right to be a shitty person. But as soon as you hurt someone because of your racist beliefs, you should be arrested.
And that’s something that is worth being arrested over. But if someone claimed to be a Nazi and didn’t do any of that stuff, they shouldn’t be arrested just for associating with people who do those things. That my point. Because that’s a slippery slope. Some governments that I believe to be corrupt have already made beliefs illegal that I personally don’t believe should be. Specifically for holding a religious belief. And then they are rounding up people that I believe to be innocent and put them in forced labor camps. I believe this is too real of a possibility of a government has a history of doing this, what’s to say they won’t also do it to a belief you have? We can all agree Nazism is bad. But what if a government decides leftism is bad and all leftists should be arrested? Even if you have don’t nothing but sit at home and hold those beliefs, you might still be arrested.
The people that want to arrest leftists are Nazis. We will let the overton window shift if we allow Nazis to spread their hateful bullshit. They must be shutdown before they may promote their dangerous views
At this point I think we need to agree to disagree. I think arresting people just because they have a different opinion than you makes us no better than them. I don’t think there’s any way we can convince each other of our beliefs.
Can you please elaborate on that? What beliefs do you think should be against the law?
They are saying that beliefs shouldn’t determine laws. That doesn’t make sense as beliefs are the foundations of laws. But dangerous beliefs like Nazism and Zionism ought to be illegal
That’s not what I meant. I am saying you shouldn’t be arrested simply for holding a belief. Not until you commit an action such as assault, murder, torture, forced labor, or one of a million other things that Nazis do should you be arrested. Being racist shouldn’t be illegal. You should have the right to be a shitty person. But as soon as you hurt someone because of your racist beliefs, you should be arrested.
And what benift could be derived from allowing Nazis free reign to convince others to kill Jewish people?
Convincing others to kill Jewish people is an action that can be (and currently is in most places) illegal. It’s conspiracy to murder.
You inherently are doing that if you are a Nazi. That’s one of the basis of Nazi ideology
And that’s something that is worth being arrested over. But if someone claimed to be a Nazi and didn’t do any of that stuff, they shouldn’t be arrested just for associating with people who do those things. That my point. Because that’s a slippery slope. Some governments that I believe to be corrupt have already made beliefs illegal that I personally don’t believe should be. Specifically for holding a religious belief. And then they are rounding up people that I believe to be innocent and put them in forced labor camps. I believe this is too real of a possibility of a government has a history of doing this, what’s to say they won’t also do it to a belief you have? We can all agree Nazism is bad. But what if a government decides leftism is bad and all leftists should be arrested? Even if you have don’t nothing but sit at home and hold those beliefs, you might still be arrested.
The people that want to arrest leftists are Nazis. We will let the overton window shift if we allow Nazis to spread their hateful bullshit. They must be shutdown before they may promote their dangerous views
At this point I think we need to agree to disagree. I think arresting people just because they have a different opinion than you makes us no better than them. I don’t think there’s any way we can convince each other of our beliefs.