Unlikely. China and the rest of the global south are very attached to the UN and its principles. I would say reform is more likely than its dissolution. Reforming the security council for one (an excellent way of doing this would be removing France and GB which have no reason for being there and are really just extra votes for the US, giving their seats to Brazil and India), and secondly transferring more of its powers to the general assembly to prevent constant deadlock due to veto. Another thing that i think will become a necessity sooner or later is to expel “Israel” from the UN.
If by reform you mean re-form(ation) then I would agree. As in they all leave the UN that exists now and make a new world government body with the same basic purpose but where the US is invited to join as purely an equal and no one holds absolute veto power or the ability to allow genocides.
I think trying to do the liberal type of reform would be just as effective as police reform is in the US… completely ineffective.
That would probably be the ideal solution but i don’t think it’s going to happen and i don’t think any country, including Russia and China, want to go in that direction.
At the moment it is precisely the countries of the global south that are most in favor of the UN playing a larger role and its charter being respected while the imperial core are the ones who are constantly undermining the UN, bypassing or ignoring it when they can’t manipulate it.
So while i agree with you i am pointing out that China and the rest of the world outside of the empire and its vassals do not see things this way yet, and if anything they are likely to double down on the UN as the power of the West declines and multipolarity accelerates.
As for “reform” that can mean a lot of things and potentially it is conceivable that one form of reform could be to abolish the existence of permanent security council seats altogether. This would go a long way toward taking away the West’s ability to veto the decisions of a majority of the world. And it is precisely for this reason that they will never allow it.
Unlikely. China and the rest of the global south are very attached to the UN and its principles. I would say reform is more likely than its dissolution. Reforming the security council for one (an excellent way of doing this would be removing France and GB which have no reason for being there and are really just extra votes for the US, giving their seats to Brazil and India), and secondly transferring more of its powers to the general assembly to prevent constant deadlock due to veto. Another thing that i think will become a necessity sooner or later is to expel “Israel” from the UN.
If by reform you mean re-form(ation) then I would agree. As in they all leave the UN that exists now and make a new world government body with the same basic purpose but where the US is invited to join as purely an equal and no one holds absolute veto power or the ability to allow genocides.
I think trying to do the liberal type of reform would be just as effective as police reform is in the US… completely ineffective.
That would probably be the ideal solution but i don’t think it’s going to happen and i don’t think any country, including Russia and China, want to go in that direction.
At the moment it is precisely the countries of the global south that are most in favor of the UN playing a larger role and its charter being respected while the imperial core are the ones who are constantly undermining the UN, bypassing or ignoring it when they can’t manipulate it.
So while i agree with you i am pointing out that China and the rest of the world outside of the empire and its vassals do not see things this way yet, and if anything they are likely to double down on the UN as the power of the West declines and multipolarity accelerates.
As for “reform” that can mean a lot of things and potentially it is conceivable that one form of reform could be to abolish the existence of permanent security council seats altogether. This would go a long way toward taking away the West’s ability to veto the decisions of a majority of the world. And it is precisely for this reason that they will never allow it.