• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I’m all about human advancement, but nothing about cars is required. If it were trains, sure I’m with you.

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      8 months ago

      Train networks good enough for people to travel wherever they want are difficult on the scale of large countries like Canada, the US, and Russia.

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        8 months ago

        Incorrect. The US was built on passenger rail travel. It just wasn’t as profitable as freight and also once cars started becoming a thing then car interest groups started fucking things up to make more money.

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        8 months ago

        We had a world class transcontinental rail system that was stunningly expansive. Much of it, especially the branch lines that went just about everywhere people built towns and cities, has been abandoned, sold, or converted to bike paths. Now we have basically a freight only system with near zero branch service, and some local and inter-city rail transit that is utterly shitty by developed world standards.

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      8 months ago

      “Nothing about cars is required”

      ho boy you’ve obviously never lived anywhere super rural. When the nearest house is 15 miles away, you need some form of transportation better than a bike.

      This is a very “never lived anywhere but the city” take

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        8 months ago

        I guess rural living didn’t exist between 1900 and the beginning of human civilization did it? Because this is a very “ignorant of history and can’t imagine an alternative” take, which doesn’t reflect well upon you.

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          Lol and things took exponentially longer and had a massive time investment to go anywhere.

          Don’t get me wrong I’m not big on car centric design, but pretending personal transportation isn’t and hasn’t been important is just ignoring the practicality of the world.