Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.

  • oldindianmonk@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Consider two 5’6" 65kg athletes, one man and one woman, are you saying that the man doesn’t have an advantage?

    I used to believe the same until I saw the recent Women’s Premier League in Cricket. They had to reduce the size of field and the weight of ball. Even with that, the fastest bowl in the tournament was 130kmph while that speed is considered a “slower ball” in men’s cricket.

    Now some of these female cricketers earm more than any Pakistani male cricketers. Which is fair, bigger market, bigger payout. But female cricketers don’t stand a chance against the male cricketers

    • Landrin201@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Ok, that’s literally completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. You just flat out stated in this comment that you think that all trans women are actually just men. You’re flat out wrong about that.

      We have more than enough science that demostrates conclusively that a person on hormone therapy is athletically more similar to the sex they are transitioning to than the sex they were born in. You’re just ignoring all of that and pretending that it doesn’t exist. YOU might not like that it exists because it makes it clear that you’re just being a bigot, but it does exist, and it demonstrates exactly that.

    • PlasmaK@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      Here is a surprise for you: HRT actually does things to your body. I don’t think this should have been that hard to find on your own, but I can’t judge your circumstances.

      • Landrin201@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Transphobes always make the same tired arguments about “biological differences between men and women” and then scream and run away when you bring up actual science, because they don’t care about the science. They care about being bigots, and using science to make their bigotry look legitimate.

    • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Consider two 5’6" 65kg athletes, one man and one woman, are you saying that the man doesn’t have an advantage?

      No, my MMA teacher was female and she’d kick my arse regularly

      They had to reduce the size of field and the weight of ball. Even with that, the fastest bowl in the tournament was 130kmph

      Now you’re undermining your first point, you’re not comparing same heights and weight. Physics is real.

      • oldindianmonk@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        Okay.

        Ellyse Perry, the fastest bowler in women’s cricket is 176cm at 60kg (amazing athlete, represented Australia at both Cricket and Football world cups!). Her fastest ball was 130.1kph

        Shoaib Akthar, the fastst bowler in men’s cricket is 180cm at 80kg. His fastest was 161kph

        Laws of cricket dictate that women should use a ball that is between 415⁄16 and 55⁄16 ounces (139.98 and 150.61 grams); which could be up to 13⁄16 ounces (23.03 grams) lighter than the ball used by the men.

        Also made me think, the whole height-weight distinction will only work in purely physical sports like boxing (maybe even some american sports like baseball and nfl). It is not going to work in global sports like Cricket and Football. Think about the greatest footballers of our generation. Cristiano was 183cm (6ft) and Messi 169cm (5ft 6in).

          • oldindianmonk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago
            • his mass is 33% more and the ball goes 23% faster? Momentum is mass x velocity iirc.

            Do you understand why this statement is wrong?

            You’re mixing the mass of the person throwing the ball with the mass of the ball.

            • his mass is 33% more

            This would matter if he was flying himself at the batsman.

            • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I’m not trying to be difficult, I just probably don’t understand. It’s been at least 30 years since I did physics.

              There’s only 3 things in the equation?

              Velocity = Momentum/Mass

              momentum is the product of the mass and velocity. It is a vector quantity, possessing a magnitude and a direction

              The ball gets its momentum from the mass and velocity, so size and speed of the bowler?

              Add in levers from long whippy limbs and you get the fastest ball for the size of bowler?

              Do biological males have longer whippier limbs? If not, then I don’t understand how a bowler of the same size and weight of either sex would have an advantage, assuming identical levels of access to playing and coaching from a young age.

          • oldindianmonk@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            I only pointed out the difference between the fastest. There’s plenty of shorter, leaner bowlers in men’s cricket who bowl faster than Perry. Kemar Roach for instance is in the same height and weight category as Perry and regularly bowls 150kph

            Tbf it’s expected. You know women going below 16-18% body fat is completely unhealthy while top male athletes are perfectly healthy at 6% or so

            Edit: wtf mate? Momentum is not mass of propeller times velocity. By your logic a sumo wrestler would easily be the fastest cricket bowler!

            • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              Momentum is mass x velocity. Google it.

              Would you rather get hit by a featherweight or heavyweight? Mass matters

              I’d say the difference between men and women’s cricket will reduce as women get more training and money, I don’t see any reason why not

              • oldindianmonk@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Yes dear friend, momentum is indeed mass x velocity. But we’re not talking about the speed at which the bowler runs. It’s the speed at which the bowl is propelled.

                (to be clear, the lower mass of cricket ball in women’s cricket is a factor in reducing momentum. But we’re talking purely speed here)

                Some women cricketers (outside Pakistan) earn more than Pakistani male cricketers already. And I must say, I’m a huge supporter. Unlike the WNBA in the US, women’s cricket is way more popular in rest of the world.

                It’s a biological factor that women, generally, aren’t as physically strong as men and as a supporter of female athletes, abolishing gender boundaries is practically killing women’s sports. Here’s some more data you could’ve found out by googling: https://boysvswomen.com/#/