If not on Wayland, what’s stopping you?
X because when I try selecting Wayland from sddm the screen goes black and then takes me back to sddm. I’m on manjaro and I’ve done no configuration and I’ve not attempted to install Wayland I just assume because it’s an option in my drop down that it’s been installed.
@Fizz @bacteriostat @kde On my arch install, I had to install plasma-wayland-session to make that option work.
I had plasma-wayland-session already installed. It turns out I needed to add nvidia-drm to the kernal params and forced GBM backend. After that it seems to be working. I am a wayland man now!
I’m on Wayland on my laptop, which is AMD (I specifically went all AMD because NVidia is just kind of a pain in the ass on Linux I’ve found) and that works perfectly, it’s been my daily driver for probably about a year and I tend to forget I’m even running it unless it comes up, such as talking about it now.
My desktop is Nvidia and that thing will crash if you even say the word Wayland within about 10 feet of it so that one’s still rocking X11 for now.
X, because honestly my screen works and don’t currently need to replace the server behind it.
I understand and X works fine for a lot od people but do remember the number of developers maintaining it have been dropping year on year. No harm in trying IMO. If you are on Plasma or Gnome, you get a simple switcher on the login screen.
Yeah, I know X is really showing its age.
I have to add that the switcher is not on Debian 12 by default, where Wayland support for Plasma is optional in plasma-workspace-wayland. Also, it is broken on Nvidia due to missing packages/libraries and Nvidia’s proprietary driver still in general not supporting Wayland properly.
It is bottom left on my sddm login Wayland or X11 session kde. Debian 12 bookworm AMD
Because you installed it, or because 12 now gives both via tasksel (or Debian setup). My system is from Debian 10
For me personally on an AMD GPU, Wayland seems feature-complete. In terms of bugs though Wayland can be a pain. My primary monitor always seems to lock up either entirely or in parts. Like I can use the taskbar but a game becomes unresponsive, or vise versa. Literally as I typed this, my taskbar locked up and I can’t select anything so I will have to reboot lol.
Another annoying thing about KDE under both X and Wayland (though it happens in Wayland far more) is when the taskbar and title bar icons default to the display server logo. I hate that. Probably on the app developers though.
GNOME under Wayland is a different story, I ran that for a year and outside of some external monitor funkiness everything just seemed bug free. Might switch back once GNOME gets VRR support, we’ll see how Plasma 6 is.
Still using X on some of my servers because AnyDesk does not currently support Wayland, and sometimes I want a GUI instead of ssh.
Wayland fixed a strange blinking issue in Minecraft. So now Wayland all the time.
Wayland, I’ve tried X but it just seems so much slower
Despite having an nvidia card, i use wayland and deal with the glitches cause once you’ve gotten a taste you can’t go back
If not on Wayland, what’s stopping you?
NVIDIA :(
I use Wayland and love it, but have two serious issues:
- Sunshine does not show a mouse cursor without a hack that kills performance.
- Have to disable asyc reprojection in order to use VR.
Bonus less serious issue: I can’t re-dock floating toolbars on X applications when using XWayland.
Been on Wayland for a few years. It’s not always been sunshine and roses, but neither has X.
I still remember being really annoyed everytime I had to edit Xorg.conf files and finding my desktop to no longer boot or mouse to no longer work.
I recently switched to Wayland to see if it would work and it did. It’s been a few weeks and don’t forget myself going back to X11. My only complaint is that I couldn’t for the life of me find how to change the cursor speed. I see scroll speeds but no trackpad speed. So I just live with a slightly slower cursor. I’m sure I could figure it out outside of KDE if I really looked, but it’s just usable enough to where I haven’t bothered yet.
Wayland!
It has advanced a lot lately, I’ve been daily driving it for months now with no issues, compared to a couple of Plasma versions ago where it would break itself in 5 minutes lol.
Only thing I’m missing is a good remote access solution. I’m currently making do with Sunshine + Moonlight but it has the very annoying bug of not showing the mouse cursor.Edit: lol just realized this post is 1 month old. Really looking forward to Lemmy fixing this bug.
I’m on X atm. Wayland works, but it stops some configs from working properly. For example I have endeavour set up to not only notify me of updates, but I can click on the icon in the tray and it will start the update on X, where on Wayland the tray icon doesn’t show so I have to manually update my system. I like the simplistic click and go the tray icon offers me. This is just one feature I run into problems with. I don’t run NVIDIA so I don’t have the compatibility issue with that.
X11 because what we really needed was X12 but instead we threw the baby out with the bath water.
