Iv seen posts with people substituting rape with r@pe. Other than bypassing filters I can’t see a reason to censor just 1 letter that doesn’t actually censor the word? I see if you fully censor the word, but even still context completely ruins the censorship.

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    Pretty sure it’s done to avoid videos/posts being removed by TikTok/Twitter/FB and the likes. For example, you can’t use or say the word “Suicide” on TikTok, that would get the video removed. So people say “Unalive” to get around that. This way, they can still talk about difficult topics without the dumb censorship.

    If you’re seeing it in places where that isn’t an issue (like Lemmy, for example) they may just be doing it out of habit.

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      There was this tiktok where a woman was talking about how her cousin was shot and killed for knocking on her neighbor’s door to get her kid’s thing and she used “unalive” to describe it. It was very jarring to hear in such a somber context. It feels very dystopian that people have to self censor for the algorithm. Same with youtube and any mentions of covid.

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        A lot of this self censoring is algorithm voodoo. Nobody knows what makes these platforms mark your videos as age restricted, so people do silly stuff like say, “unalive”. I’ve seen many videos where people use the word kill that aren’t age restricted.

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          She went on to say kill a few minutes into the video so it might just be the start of the video. Could be legit or just what people have been conditioned to do for no reason. I’ve also seen youtubers specifically say that they can swear after the first 30 or so seconds of a video and not get demonitized.

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            So I think “kill” is fine for the Tiktok censors as it can be used in various contacts that don’t necessarily mean death. Murder, suicide, and rape are definitely words that will get your content or comments removed, hence “grape” (or r@pe), “unalived”. Which is a bit frustrating when educational creators can’t actually talk about their specialist subjects but oh well.

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      Makes sense, figured it was filter dodging. The fact it’s has made its way outside of those places is slightly annoying

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    I think it’s asinine. Rape is a serious subject. I find it insulting when someone “censors” the word in such a ridiculous way. Does the word “rape” make you uncomfortable? WELL, IT SHOULD. It’s sexual assault. You shouldn’t be comfortable thinking about it.

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      This seems kind of puritan to me. Why should I be made uncomfortable by the mention of sexual assault? Are you uncomfortable thinking about war?

      Why SHOULD the word “rape” make anyone uncomfortable? IMO this kind of thinking is what leads to suppression of victim’s voices. It makes even speaking about SA into a taboo thing.

      In an ideal world, wed speak of SA with, at minimum, the same frequency we speak about bullying. We’ve seen successful efforts to lessen both the frequency and impact of bullying by speaking about it more.

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        I see your point, and an explanation is called for. I don’t mean “uncomfortable” in the sense that one avoids discussing rape, only that the idea isn’t a happy one. For the same reason, I don’t gleefully think about war, either. I don’t delight in its consequences.

        The possible suppression of victim’s voices is a major part of the problem. Rape is an important subject and should be discussed openly, but it’s too serious to be mocked with silly attempts at censorship.

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    It’s really shitty for people that actually want to filter triggering stuff out of their feed.

    Putting in stupid characters doesn’t make it any less upsetting for the people it upsets, but it does force them to see it because fuck them, apparently.

    It’s a shitty, entitled thing to do, and people who do it should feel bad about themselves.

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    My understanding is that content creators have figured out which words trigger demonetisation of their videos (and to a lesser extent other content) so they’ve bowdlerised what they say to get around this. Other people presumably picked that up and used it.

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      Usually if a content creator is trying to get past a filter, they’re doing a lot more than this…

      This kind of one letter change is more for handling the most basic chat filters on the internet.

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    When asking people, they seem to think it is “rude” to write out the word in full and consider it a confused courtesy.

    Whatever the reason, it fucks with people who have filters set to avoid certain topics or just want to skip discourse that uses rude language.

    It’s shitty and should stop.

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    Why can’t it be normal for everyone just to use the correct words (to me it feels like it’d be kinda insulting to substitute a word like rape because it feels like then you’re putting the platform above the very serious topic), then people be able to set up their own filters to filter out words like rape if they don’t want to see them.

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    It is to get around filters on more oppressive platforms. My recommendation is if you see people self censoring themselves in places where they are free to say the words, tell them to say it!

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    I saw a post somewhere saying that changing 1 letter can prevent it from being searched for by people who just want to troll posts with that particular word

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    It seems pretty useless to me. The words are obviously still legible and comprehensible, so I don’t see how it has a different effect than just typing it out all the way.

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      I suspect sometimes they don’t really think about it, it’s just something they think “everyone does.” But sometimes I think it’s an annoying sort of virtue signalling.

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    No, you’re right, it is stupid. I have to agree it doesn’t work, since it largely fails to censor the word for those people the censor was made for. I have seen platforms that do full word censorship (like Steam) and when people post screenshots of “I ♥♥♥♥ you”, the only accomplishment isn’t making me not think of a slur - it’s actually rationalize even harder that they did say one of either Rape or Fuck, nothing else. Congrats censorship, you went from 1 slur, to 2 slurs.

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    I would assume it’s mostly habit from platforms with content filters and uncertainty if usage of the word is prohibited despite a lack of filter. And then a dash of “online subculture”

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    Some proprietary social media (looking at you meta) have filter, removing any sensitive topic. So if you write rape you can’t post while if you write r@pe you can.

    The ridiculous result is that a health-educator talking about sexual health and condoms will get censored while a teenager twerking in underwear won’t.

    n was talking about how her cousin was shot and killed for knocking on her neighbor’s door to get her kid’s thing and she used “unalive” to describe it. It was very jarring to hear in such a somber context. It f

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    It’s the same with most ways that we euphemise or censor words. It’s so pathetically redundant because everyone knows what the word is supposed.to be. You may as well have said it.