Microsoft honestly should just give fallout to obsidian to do another off shoot like new Vegas while Bethesda does elder scrolls. If elder scrolls sucks too I’m done with Bethesda.
Elder Scrolls 6 is going to suck, friend. Bethesda is creatively bankrupt. Unless we see massive structural changes to their organization, it’ll be the same bland boring Creation Engine dated bullshit as Starfield. Set your expectations accordingly.
It was better than starfield in my opinion with just a fraction of the money and dev team.
It was not perfect by any means, especially the weakest aspect combat (not far off from NV). But the dialogue, choices that matter, and different playstyle/ways to solve problems are still there. Like you can play a low INT character that can lead to great dialogue and a funny ending that i wont spoil.
Doesn’t help that so many of the Obsidian devs that made NV so great have since left the studio. At this point it’s almost completely different people.
I’m not even thinking about Fallout 5. Elder Scrolls 6 is next on the horizon, and Starfield does not bode well for it at all. It’s going to be absolutely awful without some massive changes in the way Bethesda designs their games. I’m not holding my breath.
200 mods is baby numbers lol, most decent Wabbajack lists now days are over 1200 mods. I think my personal list is like 1800
Modders have made Skyrim SO much better than people who haven’t played recently realize. There’s mods to completely overhaul combat and make it an extremely fluid Soulslike, while also adding things like hanggliders from Zelda + 8k textures and high effort animations etc to make it look better than most new games
Bethesda is going to have a hard time actually making TES 6 stand up to modded Skyrim by the time it comes out in 2030+
I did not expect people to actually pick up the torch after Bethesda fucked with the engine via Ultimate edition, but low and behold its better than ever despite this.
Prior to Ultimate I was sitting at 700-900 mods. Now I’ve got 1400~ from 1-2 years ago. Likely would be even higher as of late.
Just so many small QoL updates, visual and systematic overhauls. Each facet of the game has 100-200 mods a piece, then another 200-300 mods that glue all of those together with compatibility patches.
I think what really kicked things up is that people finally were willing to retire the old guard mods and replace them with modern equivalents. Campfire/Frostfall finally getting a replacement being the big example.
Nexus officially supporting modpacks was no slouch either.
You don’t need to follow the changes since Skyrim is a static game. The first step of modding Skyrim is you turn off steam updates for it entirely, then all your mods will work forever
The wabbajack authors also do put out updates pretty regularly to update mods to newer versions or replace them entirely. You just re-run the wabbajack installer and it will overwrite the out dated mods with the new ones
Elder Scrolls is such an incredible IP, with so much lore to fall back on… for them to fuck that up would be like Bioware screwing up Mass Effect, can you imagine?
The worst Bethesda game of your life so far.
i’m terrified beyond measure for fallout 5. i don’t even know if it’ll come out in my lifetime.
Microsoft honestly should just give fallout to obsidian to do another off shoot like new Vegas while Bethesda does elder scrolls. If elder scrolls sucks too I’m done with Bethesda.
Elder Scrolls 6 is going to suck, friend. Bethesda is creatively bankrupt. Unless we see massive structural changes to their organization, it’ll be the same bland boring Creation Engine dated bullshit as Starfield. Set your expectations accordingly.
Obsidian just did that with Outer Worlds and it was a resounding so-so. NV was lightning in a bottle
It was better than starfield in my opinion with just a fraction of the money and dev team.
It was not perfect by any means, especially the weakest aspect combat (not far off from NV). But the dialogue, choices that matter, and different playstyle/ways to solve problems are still there. Like you can play a low INT character that can lead to great dialogue and a funny ending that i wont spoil.
I would give an obsidian fallout game a chance.
Doesn’t help that so many of the Obsidian devs that made NV so great have since left the studio. At this point it’s almost completely different people.
I doubt you’d be missing much
I’m not even thinking about Fallout 5. Elder Scrolls 6 is next on the horizon, and Starfield does not bode well for it at all. It’s going to be absolutely awful without some massive changes in the way Bethesda designs their games. I’m not holding my breath.
Yep elder scrolls 6 is gonna stink. Guess it’s back to reinstalling Skyrim with 200 mods every few years for the rest of our lives. lol
200 mods is baby numbers lol, most decent Wabbajack lists now days are over 1200 mods. I think my personal list is like 1800
Modders have made Skyrim SO much better than people who haven’t played recently realize. There’s mods to completely overhaul combat and make it an extremely fluid Soulslike, while also adding things like hanggliders from Zelda + 8k textures and high effort animations etc to make it look better than most new games
Bethesda is going to have a hard time actually making TES 6 stand up to modded Skyrim by the time it comes out in 2030+
Can confirm, Skyrim modding has gone crazy.
I did not expect people to actually pick up the torch after Bethesda fucked with the engine via Ultimate edition, but low and behold its better than ever despite this.
Prior to Ultimate I was sitting at 700-900 mods. Now I’ve got 1400~ from 1-2 years ago. Likely would be even higher as of late.
Just so many small QoL updates, visual and systematic overhauls. Each facet of the game has 100-200 mods a piece, then another 200-300 mods that glue all of those together with compatibility patches.
I think what really kicked things up is that people finally were willing to retire the old guard mods and replace them with modern equivalents. Campfire/Frostfall finally getting a replacement being the big example.
Nexus officially supporting modpacks was no slouch either.
Here’s the thing, how could I possibly follow all the mod changes if I download that 1200 mod pack?
You don’t need to follow the changes since Skyrim is a static game. The first step of modding Skyrim is you turn off steam updates for it entirely, then all your mods will work forever
The wabbajack authors also do put out updates pretty regularly to update mods to newer versions or replace them entirely. You just re-run the wabbajack installer and it will overwrite the out dated mods with the new ones
I meant more like if there’s 1200 mods, it’s going to be hard to see just everything thats changed without reading every single one
The overhauls are enough tbh. Enderal in particular is amazing.
this is my fear
Elder Scrolls is such an incredible IP, with so much lore to fall back on… for them to fuck that up would be like Bioware screwing up Mass Effect, can you imagine?
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Nope, can’t imagine. That’s why I’m so excited for the new ME game to come out after 11 years with no new Mass Effect games.