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        Because I have to live on the same planet as the people that spend their time on radicalization tools? Because the more closed platforms are used, the bigger the damage to the open internet they do? Because I can’t even get current information on my neighborhood without it being mediated through an oligarch’s platform because “that’s what everyone else uses”? Because even elected officials are posting information that’s not available to people that don’t sign up to a service that’s owned by neo-nazi?

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          You have a point but there’s a huge chunk of people that aren’t well informed enough (we already all know of the people that simply don’t care, I’m not talking about those) and still use it.

          I have to live on the same planet on people that do a lot of things that I don’t agree. That’s called living in a society.

          You all lose time and energy lecturing people that are already on Fedi because they for some reason that you do not know are engaging with a platform that you don’t like. It’s just like, we all know Twitter bad. Chill.

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            I agree. Too many people use Twitter to just label them all shitty nazis. It’s as idiotic as blaming a whole religious groups for the actions of a few extremists.

            And your comment about the uninformed is spot on. Tons of people are just not thinking about all this stuff for one reason or another, and in a sense I don’t blame them. If it wasn’t for my child I’d love to bury my head in the sand and just try and get through this maelstrom called life.

            Like you said, most people just think Twitter sucks now and move on, at this rate musk will kill it for good in the next 5 years. That or it becomes a pathetic echo chamber like truth social.

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              I think it will die earlier, but who knows haha

              Thank you for the reply, I’m not as good as exposing my opinions as English is my second language, but you understood exactly what I meant!

              If people would consider that a lot of people are easily charmed by big corporations because they offer convenience/easy to use service mostly because they barely have time for themselves I think the world would be a better place.

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        Why do we care if people support this Nazi platform or its owner?

        You might not, I wouldn’t call caring about it pedantic though.

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        But how will people know I’m a cool edgy internet user if I don’t post “fuck twitter” and “AI bad” on every article without thinking that maybe people wanted to have a discussion about it?

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            “Capitalism bad” is the most annoying one. We’re all reminded every day that capitalism is bad, comments which just mechanically repeat an overwhelmingly popular opinion without adding anything to the discussion are something I hoped we’d left to die with reddit.

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        as long as you know you’re still hanging out at the nazi bar, I guess there’s no further discussion.

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    “ChatGPT is stealing our content! Make it so scrapers can’t get anything back from us”

    “But web scrapers also are–”

    “I don’t care!”

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      It’s a funny thing you mention. We were told to block chat.openai.com recently by our CTO who was afraid of data leaks of internal information. Not a bad idea honestly.

      But one of my colleagues made a salient point… In that case we should do the same with Google Translate, we’ve been sending them gazillions of gigabytes of internal emails and other sensitive stuff. And it’s also a company we also don’t have any formal business or data management contract (GDPR!) with?

      “Just block ChatGPT” was the answer, but it was certainly a good point. This is the thing about hypes. It makes people think things are ‘special’ cases when in fact they are not. Google probably has a LOT more visibility on our company than OpenAI.

      Also they are worried about the MS version of ChatGPT because it’s “not as good” (uuh it’s literally the same engine) and also have data concerns even though we do have data management contracts with them and they put it black on white that they’re not using our data for any kind of model training.

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        I’ve seen a few companies here where ChatGPT is blocked and they use the Microsoft Azure version of it, often since they’re already using Azure or Office 365 and Microsoft can probably just add it to the same contract.

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    It speaks volumes that people are so ensconced in their worldviews that sharing links on the open Web to sites that require an account to view content on causes zero cognitive dissonance.

    I’d be very curious to see the Venn diagram of people who see no problem spamming the web like this and people who complain about links to paywalled sites.

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    The inevitable result of an egregiously rich man-baby trying to stick it to the “woke”. I left Twitter the moment that idiot took over. Twitter is a cesspool and a joke now. Time to move on.

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    Twitter is a mess that we can see. Imagine all the shit hidden on Tesla software that we can’t.

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    Just out of curiosity, what happens when you switch it to x.com?

    edit: I guess it doesn’t matter because it looks like they decided to start forwarding x.com links to the twitter.com version now. That’s new.

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    I presume this is on purpose considering they’re moving towards tweets not being public (account required to view). Showing the tweet in the preview would be an easy way to get way around this

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      I tried that and it wasn’t working for me. Just redirected to regular Twitter…

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      This service really shouldn’t have used “Twitter” in its domain name… Twitter/X would easily win a UDRP dispute if they decided to file one, since it contains their trademark.