• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Sam Altman for those who don’t want to click through.

    And I have no idea which I would choose to face off from those four, let alone who would win.

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      You could put them in a sack and hit the sack with a stick. You’d never hit the wrong guy.

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      Theil wants a techno libertarian oligarchy with no regulations ala Blade Runner.

      Musk wants the rich to escape to Mars while destroying earth and dooming the poor’s.

      Bezos wants to send the poor’s into space along with heavy industry and turn earth into a rich person paradise ala Black Mirror “Fifteen Million Merits”.

      Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.

      If I had to pick just one it would be Theil. I think the man is insidious while the rest are more in your face.

      Ranked choice would be Theil, Musk, Bezos then Altman.

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        I love your descriptions for all of them. If you have some free time would you mind writing it for everyone in the brackets?

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          Sam Bankman-Fried is definitely bad for what he did and his belief in effective altruism, which is just another smoke screen to not properly tax rich people because they “donate to charities”. You could argue his getting into crypto also makes him bad because crypto mining is bad but he’s not on the same level as Sam Altman. Not even close.

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            I’d rather pick someone who did something deserving of life in prison than someone who didn’t, but maybe that’s just me.

            Also, Sam Altman has no equity in, and was only paid $73k by OpenAI last year. You can dislike him for the rumors surrounding his managerial style and whatnot, but it’s pretty clear he isn’t exploiting people to get shit rich like everyone else on this list.

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              I don’t.

              Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.

              If he wasn’t promoting AI and trying to sell it as the next best thing to sliced bread he’d just be a shitty rich prepper. Instead he is wasting time and resources on AI.

              And my personal bias against crypto really lowers my “give a fuck” bar so while, again, what he did is bad I don’t care if he defrauded a bunch of crypto cunts. Same as I don’t care about people “loosing” their NFT’s.

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                Instead he is wasting time and resources on AI.

                Under what circumstances would AI research and training not be considered a waste of time and resources, in your mind?

                I don’t care if he defrauded a bunch of crypto cunts

                Well, his whole ballgame was selling crypto to normal people, not cryptobros. Do you really think the FTX Super Bowl commercial was targeted at people who can articulate the differences in technology between Bitcoin and Ethereum?

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                  Under what circumstances would AI research and training not be considered a waste of time and resources, in your mind?

                  Right now? None.

                  Well, his whole ballgame was selling crypto to normal people, not cryptobros.

                  All the same crypto cunts to me. Doesn’t matter if you mine, trade, marry or fuck crypto they are all the same cunts to me.

                  Do you really think the FTX Super Bowl commercial was targeted at people who can articulate the differences in technology between Bitcoin and Ethereum?

                  I don’t watch any sports and few to no ads so I have no idea what you are talking about.

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                    All the same crypto cunts to me. Doesn’t matter if you mine, trade, marry or fuck crypto they are all the same cunts to me.

                    Wow, this is a concerningly sociopathic worldview. I’m quite sure that a lot of people who were fucked over by FTX were people you would otherwise consider to be your brethren. Or, y’know, your grandparents.

                    And here I was thinking Lemmy would be less toxic than Reddit.

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      No matter who wins we all lose. That’s kind of the point whenever these guys turn up.

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      To make things slightly easier it’s Musk v Thiel and Bezos v Altman.

      In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.

      In the second matchup I would pick Bezos for the larger impact he has had on the world.

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        I’m with you on the second, but I would have a really hard time with the first because Musk is more overtly a piece of shit, but Thiel has had so much influence over the years, including elevating Elon Musk to the position where he is today. I guess if it’s the worst of 2023 and we’re restricting it solely to what we know they’ve said and done in 2023, it would be Musk. But I think overall, it is probably Thiel just because there wouldn’t be an Elon Musk anyone had heard about without Peter Thiel.

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        In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.

        But Musk’s acquisition of Twitter is in itself subservient to Theil’s overarching political goals. One has been in the limelight more, but the other has caused more harm overall.

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        This is the 2023 matchup. You don’t consider Jordan’s performance at UNC when determining their championship status this year. Heck, despite the past damage done, i don’t think. Bezos, for his 2023 tech fuckery, should have made it out of the first round.

        By the same metric, Musk easily tops Thiel first 2023 and is the clear shoo-in as champion of the worst.

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        He’s not really as bad as the other three, but he did take a nonprofit company and turn it into a multibillion dollar profit machine which has a massive carbon and fresh water footprint.

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          Also some view ChatGPT (and the other “AIs”) as massive plagiarism machines.

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            AI or not, plagiarism appears to happen a lot. AI just makes it a little easier than it was before.

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        His world coin project is one of the sketchiest. Paying people in poor countries to get scanned by this creepy orb thing? Odd.

        His sister has also vociferously accused him of molesting her for a period of time when she was 4 and he was 13.