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      Unfortunately for us Americans, the railway industry was privatized long ago, and they consistently lobby for things to only move in their favor.

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      I mean honestly, if any government can fuck up a large-scale infrastructure project it’s absolutely the US federal government.

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      Come to the UK and marvel at our range of privatised services. It’s poetry in motion! Not that I’d dare think what would have happened in the past 13 years of glorious Conservative ‘governance’ had anything been in public ownership…

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      Having multiple companies using the same state owned tracks would be even better. Competition is always good, and you really don’t want a monopoly, which is what you’d most likely get with everything being state owned.

      We’ve got one big railway in Austria (ÖBB), which is owned by the government. And then we’ve got one smaller, private one (WESTbahn) which only goes to certain cities and in a certain direction. The private one’s prices are usually way better, even though they pay the government to be able to use the rails.

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    My programmer’s dream is to use a geodata map of the US with population and visitor statistics to make a slime mold map to use as the transit model.

    Geodata because I want it to account for terrain in addition to population and visitor data.

    I also want to include the national parks system in it just because it can revitalize the whole thing with stationside hotels for people to leave their junk at while they’re in the parks.

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      I don’t fully understand what all that means but I like the sound of it and hope your dream comes true

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        Thank you!

        Basically a slime mold map is simulating a blob that forms a network of centers and bridges based on the location of “food”, and supposedly in the process demonstrates the most efficient network of transportation between those locations.

        Its applications for public transit were realized when trying it out with an actual slime mold revealed a map very similar to the actual layout of the Tokyo metro system, hence the name.

        So the theory is that you can simulate transit stations by putting “food” at those locations and the slime mold simulation will organically draw a map of an efficient transit network for you because it’s a stretchy little slime that just wants food.

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      Haha yes it also bothered me that the slime mold didn’t have to consider the ferocity of the Rocky Mountains.

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    Get me dat yellow line! Pop into NO in 2 hours, get hammered en Vieux Carre, nap on the ride back? SOLD.

    6 hours to El Paso? And I could finally afford to visit the west coast?!

    So many ways to pay for this. Haul for Amazon, UPS, FedEx, USPS, all of them. Use passenger fees for ongoing maintenance.

    This could be the next iteration of the interstate highway system. Ya know, that thing that made America’s economy explode by connecting us?

    And if we took many passengers, and at least some freight, off the interstates, less maintenance costs.

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      Keep freight and passenger trains on seperate tracks for the most part otherwise you end up like Canada where passenger trains have to yield (delay) to let the frieght pass.

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        Yeah, because of this it takes me 8 hours to make a trip to Seattle by train when it takes 5.5 hours by car. That entire trip is in the US, too.

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      Disney and Miami/Keys. No one WANTS to go through Jacksonville, but it’s the shortest route if you’re going down the coast.

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      Huge tourist hub and destination for a lot of flights. Need lines from both the northeast and Midwest to capture a majority of the air traffic going there.

      Speaking as a former midwesterner who would drive down to Florida with their family for vacations this would be a god send, I’m sure most east coasters would agree too.

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      The blue green are just a merged line I think. Florida is. Kst heavily populated on its coasts and then part way down you have the ver glades. Of you look at a map of Florida now this is more or less what I75 and I95 do.

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    yeah airplanes were supposed to be the solution for this, but since air travel absolutely sucks now unless you have your own private jet, I guess we’re taking it back to the ground.

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      I’ve been to both. Montana is happy to larp as a cowboy state and North Dakota knows what it did.

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        It’s not that those places don’t deserve modernization, it’s just that those are much more sparsely populated areas, with much longer distances between population centers. From a cost and logistics perspective, it doesn’t make sense to build routes in those places before establishing routes elsewhere, in denser areas. You have to walk before you can run, etc.

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        The cannonball run records are under 24 hours. A week travel includes few hours per day travel and generous breaks.

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          The canonball run records also involve teams of people driving ahead with radios so they can do stretches of 120+

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            Cannonball run is 2906 miles. Assuming most of it is across highways at 65 mph, (a lot of the west is faster but the east is slower), you’d get it in about 44 hours. With a 10-minute delay every 300 miles you’d add about 2 hours for a total of 46.3 hours.

            You want to stop every 16 hours of driving (since you don’t care about DOTs 10-hour limit) so it takes you slightly less than 3 days. Or less than half the stated “week”.

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        Yeah but cars are slow. I was mentally comparing to flying, and planes just happen to be really freaking fast.

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      This is unfortunately why this will never happen. It’s 4x as long as flying and requires 1000x the infrastructure to maintain. High speed rail makes sense for regional connections, but I remain skeptical that it’s viable for this kind of travel.

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        I mean, any network is just a set of regional connections. Sure maybe no one takes NYC - LA line, but if people are taking the NYC to Chicago and LA to Dallas and Dallas To Chicago there’s no reason not to join them up.

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    Anyone in Quebec getting on the Chicago train is in for a nasty surprise.