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Childhood: Adults know what they are doing
Adulthood: No one knows what they are doing
Usually around early 30s for sure
Adulthood: No one knows what they are doing
A lot of people miss the implicit reality of this wisdom: basically everyone pretending to know what they’re doing is trying to scam you, sell you something, or both.
Actual smart people don’t have to sell it
smart people don’t know what they’re doing even more. They’re just smart enough to pretend well
And/or y’know themselves.
100%
Teenhood: Adults don’t know what they’re doing.
The naive part is that teens think they know what they’re doing.
Yeah I’m almost 30 and if I ever click over to full adult its not going to be anytime soon
41 and I laugh at farts and think about the power rangers more then I care to admit
NO THATS THE WRONG RANGERS
It seems to me like 30s adulthood is more “ok, I get the hang of this thing now”.
You’re not necessarily more mature, you don’t have all the answers, you might suck at paying bills on time, or whatever. But, what changes is that not too many situations are truly new anymore. You’ve accumulated enough life experiences that in a new situation, or when a new problem comes up, you at least have some skills to draw on – even if those skills are just calling up a parent to ask their advice.
You’re not necessarily more mature
I thought that was the case until overhearing people in their 20s talking to each other.
Neuroplasticity usually slows down by the time you are around 25. Lots of people who were criminals usually normalize by that age and rejoin society.
If you cant pay your bills by your 30s, you are highly irresponsible and probably already had the short end of the stick. Anything you learn will have to come from the immense stress to retrigger said neuroplasticity. Meaning it wont be fun at all.
Most people in the far less wealthy countries like Hungary just stay with their family. It usually means an already owned house or apartment with the ability to save up.
Being in debt is also a foreign concept to me. I feel way too highly conflicted with the idea of shelling out thousands of dollars I dont have.
If anything, this jumping into life with student loan, having bought a car and making a family at the same time suggests high amount of trust in the system. It is a way too enticing offer that easily lures you into a trap.
From everything I’ve seen, the modern expectation of what it means to “grow up” is just validating and taking ideological ownership of the corrupt, exploitative systems of the people that fucked everything up to begin with. This expectation is largely pushed by the exploited, beaten dog victims of those systems, as misery loves company.
That’s gonna be a no from me, dawg. If you want to spend most of your waking life self-flagellating for sociopathic profiteers in hopes you’ll become one of their favorites, and subsisting for decades saving to finally enjoy life as a half blind, half deaf withered husk with 3 marbles left rolling around upstairs, if you make it that far, knock yourself out, grown up.
Nearing 40, I still treat some adults like I used to when I was ~16-18. Then it hits me that I’m ~5 years older than them.
54, working with people mostly 20-40, and having to remind myself my age all the time, except when they don’t get my adolescence pop culture references. And they think I look 10 years younger, though that can be inability to evaluate ages 🤣
Don’t be hasty
Adulthood should have some requirements, but not the age.
Age is how many laps around the sun the earth did since you were born, that’s it.
Maturity now… Well, I’ve seen 14 years olds more mature than me lol
Often times children who are very mature for their age are victims of abuse at home, which forces them to grow up quickly.
Right, maturity vs. adulthood.
AFAIK in Japan they’ve long considered “youth” to be people below 30.
that means bilbo was essentially a teenager which makes so much sense
Not if you think of The Hobbit as a YA adventure story.
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Worth noting that hobbits canonically get to be 90 to 100 years old on average, despite living in a society with what appears to be rennaissance or early modern-level technology. So they just have more time to figure themselves out than we do.
But consider this: a 50yo dude has more experience than a 20yo dude, but would he actually get that experience if everyone treated them like 15yo right up until they’re like 30? And in some ways, even today people aren’t considered fully grown up at 20 - e.g. many political offices have age requirements of 30 or 40 years (depending on where you live, of course).
Or we can stop infantilizing people below the age of Boomer.
when i was in my 20s, i thought i’d have it all figured out and that i’m a “proper” adult. now in my 30s i doubt i’m being mature enough to call myself an adult.
it’s not about looking down on others. the older you get and the more you see and experience, the more you realize that we stay children in many aspects of our lives, as you’re able to reflect on a longer life time.
admittedly many people never get around to the reflection part though, and think they’re smart and superior just because of their age, and are smug assholes with the social competence of a kindergarten child
Children don’t have agency. Adults do.
Just saying that when a 16 year old wants to change up the classes in their school to prepare for college, they shouldn’t be talked down to and stonewalled. The “adults” in the room then just though I would grow out of ambition.
i agree. though i think the meme isn’t aiming at that, more like adults figuring out how immature they are themselves
I know a guy whose 29 year old son lives at home with him. No job; gets an allowance.
Why begrudge that in a nation filled with fancy lad/lass nepo babies like Alice Walton and Donald Trump who’ve never done a day of real work despite being born into great wealth?
