• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 years ago

    That can become a problem when the “mass consensus” does not want particular opinions. Now, while fascists spreading their ideology or discrimination is a common trait in them, maybe we should make it clearer that unless one pushes these kinds of things on people, they are welcome to chat. Instead, places like Gab, Parler and Dissenter got created that empower them and unite them even more.

    The “consensus” for example tends to believe Apple offers better privacy than Huawei, even though we know Apple is a NSA partner while USA government has not given us any evidence in two years since the ban, it is all propaganda that that USA country produces. Same for Falun Gong’s organ harvest theories, or Adrian Zenz’s Uyghur propaganda.

    Now if you were to go ahead and criticise Israel or their government, somehow a bunch of people pop up claiming Israel = Jews = you are anti semite.

    This kind of “mass consensus” agreement creates a big loophole into what should be allowed or not, even though there exist facts to prove otherwise.

    I do not think many people will be on my side, honestly, but someone has to open up this debate. Me being a democratic socialist, I think the debate needs to be there.

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      Sure, the only thing I critized was that idea that highly prevails in the privacy community and in society in general that there are events or decisions which are not political, and therefore that some spaces should remain “unpoliticized”. For example, “privacy is something that affects us all, and therefore we should all unite and fight for it”, as if we should allow nazis to participate in any kind of decision making.

      Something very similar happens in gaming, I’ve heard a lot of times stuff like “SJWs came and started to get politics into videogames, they are entertainment, it shouldn’t be a matter of politics” as if videogames weren’t a hyper politicized environment, full of mysoginy and male centered.

      The same happens everywhere, all arguments are political arguments, I’m not referring when one opinion may seem like a right wing one (saying that what Israel is doing now with Palestine is genocide) when actuallt it is a left wing one; when it is hard to tell if one argument is in one side of the spectrum or the other, just that they are all political.

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        4 years ago

        These things are very hard to deal with. Where misogyny is the buzzword, feminists will ignore misandry, thus people seeing them as authoritarian and ignoring their cause.

        The cause of privacy is also politicised in ways. That said, the status quo consensus needs to change, as there is lot of wrong and hypocrisy in today’s version of justice.