• Rolder@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    Yeah, nah. Their neighbors declared war on Israel the literal moment Israel was founded. They hadn’t even had time to piss anyone off.

    • AdeptusPrimaris@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      Because the very creation of Israel was a settler colonialist state ethnically cleansing the local population.

      I would say their neighbours had plenty to be pissed off about.

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          10 months ago

          When you do that on someone else’s land?

          We call that colonialism and the people who’s land it was generally aren’t too thrilled

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          10 months ago

          Yes? Especially if the territory of that state is forcibly taken away from others who are living on it

          Creating the United States was similarly terrible as it involved the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. Same with Australia. Same with South Africa. Same with Rhodesia.

          Forcibly taking someone’s home and cleansing an area of an ethnicity is certainly regarded as one of the worst actions a group of people can do. And rightly so

          • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
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            10 months ago

            Of course, the way Israel was created was not ideal. I do not agree that Israel should have forced people out.

            Just like many Arab countries should not have forced Jews out.

            But unfortunately, it’s not very feasible to return it to the previous state now…

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              A lot of countries have a right of return. It works just fine. They may not be able to get the family farm back, but we can’t win everything.

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                    10 months ago

                    So far the international court has not decided on the genocide case, so it’s incorrect to accuse them of genocide now.

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      10 months ago

      Uh… Zionists had 28 years before the founding of Israel to get everyone to hate Jews all they want. Remember that the militias that formed the IDF were terrorist organizations before that, and the whole “let’s create an Apartheid state in Palestine” thing was inherently pretty objectionable.