• danielfgom@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I would like to know how young these Koreans are. If they are working age and paying themselves, then fine. If they are teenagers or students and dad is paying, then is invalid.

    Apple Marketing is formidable. They work hard to maintain a cool brand image and that’s why we see this. It doesn’t mean iPhone is better, it just means Apple Marketing is working.

    Plus they may be bored with Samsung if that’s all they see.

    The Chinese market is more interesting since Android did very well there because there is so much choice. Having said that iPhone is also popular but it’s a status thing. Just like in India where if you have status you use an iPhone. This is the reason Apple is expensive, they position themselves as a luxury brand so everyone will aspire to own one.

    Sort of like Toyota Vs Mercedes. Both are good, the Toyota is more reliable and affordable but the status people will buy the Mercedes even though it may be less reliable, more expensive to run and insure. That doesn’t make the Merc better.

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      I would like to know how young these Koreans are

      That’s the first thing you see when you click on the link

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        1 year ago

        Thanks. Just as I thought, it’s Gen Z who are easily fooled by marketing and status:

        "In its analysis, the survey credited iPhone’s appeal among young people to Apple’s premium branding "

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          Such a boomer-ass take, as if previous generations weren’t prone to falling for marketing. Remember diamonds?

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    zoomers dont care about reliability and aren’t aware of planned obsolescence. also they r probably not paying for those out of their own pocket so their choice shouldnt matter: only people that vote with their wallet could be considered for their choice.

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      This take makes absolutely no sense.

      Since when are iPhone unreliable? And since when do iPhone have a short life due to planned obsolescence?

      I have both a Galaxy S phone and an iPhone and I hate using the iPhone, but I’ll be the first to admit the iPhone is extremely well built and gives me zero worries about reliability. Also Apple is known for supporting its devices for years and years longer than Android phone makers, so I have no idea why anyone would claim anything about planned obsolescence. And again, I say that as someone who hates iOS. It’s so clunky and frustrating to use, but the hardware it runs on is absolutely top tier.

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        Also Apple is known for supporting its devices for years and years longer than Android phone makers, so I have no idea why anyone would claim anything about planned obsolescence.

        If a browser (iOS) is tied to a system update, you can claim to give out updates years beyond anyone else and it might include anything but a brower “update” and they’ll still be able to call it a security update. Those updates to older iOS devices are watered down versions of what latest phones get.You’ll also get security patches but Android can provide many patches directly through Google play store and services without pushing a system update.

        Android manufacturers might abandon phones, but there’s an after market community which provides trustworthy updates and security patches long beyond Apple does. I still have an Android tablet which won’t update further than 4.4, but can still run apps that are regularly updated through f-droid(website, their app doesn’t support 4.4 anymore). With Apple you’re fucked with Appstore, being the only source for apps. And your old device is as good as a pdf reader.

        That is planned obsolescence and both Android manufactuers and Apple do it. With Android, you still have after-market options without rooting your device.

        Sure you might say those third party app and ROM security isn’t as reliable but for less half the price of Apple devices, they last way longer than what fanboys give Android devices credit for.

        Also Apple hardware is top-tier because they have exclusive contracts with with top-tier hardware manufacturers and limit everyone elses access to it. That’s what you can do when you’re a trillion dollar company. And yes, I agree their hardware is top tier, That hardware that runs only what Apple wants is what I reccomend to old folks and teenagers who are less technically literate and are likely tap every link on their email, popup on scammy website or download obscure game/apps from the internet.

        I currently have a Pixel 6 and and iPad, the most I do on iPad is watch some movies. And I say that as someone who hates both of them

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          Google Play Security updates can only update a few things on your device. Also, they are available only on devices that have been released tha last 4 years. Only Android 11,12,13 are getting monthly security patches, but then, the vendors must build a new version for your device. Most of vendors are upgrading for 2-3 years their devices and then they stop getting security updates. With a small serch on exploitdb you can see how safe is to still using Android Kitkat in 2023.

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          Apple hardware is top-tier because they have exclusive contracts with with top-tier hardware manufacturers and limit everyone elses access to it.

          Also, they charge you for that premium hardware. $1000 for 4 wheels that can spin.

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      dont care about reliability

      I used iPhones for years and switched to Android. I had to factory reset my Pixel 6 pro twice in a matter of months (no side-loaded apps, very few apps in general, and not any weird use cases). That’s in addition to the months of issues with BlueTooth (and still some today), the camera overheating quickly (4k video was one of the main reasons I bought it), and more. My wife has used Samsung for years and has also had more issues than I did with iPhone. Same experience with iPad vs Android tablets. I waffle about switching back, but will likely stay with Android at this point. Still, enough BS could push me back the other way.

      To me, iPhones/iPads were way reliable than Android has been for me.

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        Each user has their own experience. In a household of 6 where I’m the sole android user , iPhones are not perfect.

        I’ve seen them just freeze requiring a trip to the Apple store to unblock, constant disconnects frim WiFi, not switching on mesh network, dropping apple watch connections.

        I’ve never experienced any issues with my android devices, save fory pizel 7 which seems to forget Bluetooth devices, which is super annoying.

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        I was on Samsung for a long time and didn’t have problems.

        Early into the iOS 16 lifecycle things were a lot less stable, but seem to have calmed down now.

        Neither platform felt as stables as iOS 6 way back in the day, but maybe that’s just my rose tinted glasses

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      I wonder how much of this is due to associating the older generations with Samsung devices and the total dominance of Samsung branding across South Korea.

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        as long as other phones brands exist i doubt there would be a dominance in the korean market: sure a brand can assert its existence in the market with a good after sales service, spare parts availability, customizable/rootable phones, etc…but also as one get older, conveniency can dictates the choice of a phone brand. being a home brand would make owning its product easily convenient buy cutting on repair costs, shipping delays etc

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          Samsung branding is on everything in South Korea, not just electronics. It’s a massive part of their economy (18.3% of the entire country’s GDP in 2021). They’re in virtually every industry there.