• GluWu@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Just waiting for Europeans to finally buck up and accept us as political refugees. Talk about school shootings, Healthcare, so many bad things about the US, things that make me never want children. But would they like me, only separated from there by a few generations, to go back with my engineering degree and have children? Help the declining birthrate and following population decline? Guess Europe only wants illegal immigrants?

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      10 months ago

      You had me until the xenophobic bullshit last sentence.

      Actually, I started to suspect something was off when you began talking about declining birth rates since that’s a common talking point amongst replacement theory believers and other racists, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt until you confirmed your bigotry at the end.

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        10 months ago

        Grow up. “I agree, until you said something I slightly don’t agree with. Now you’re a xenophobic racist and I disagree with you completely.” . Please just block me if you’re so fragile.

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          10 months ago

          "I agree, until you said something I slightly don’t agree with

          Yeah, that’s kind of how agreeing and disagreeing works…

          Now you’re a xenophobic racist and I disagree with you completely."

          Nah, what I (correctly) pointed out was that one sentence was xenophobic. I didn’t say that it was necessarily representative of you as a person or that it made me disagree with the things I agreed with before.

          I said that I didn’t like your comment anymore because it ended with a xenophobic sentence. There’s nothing odd about that. Seems I’m not the fragile person who needs to grow up here.

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      10 months ago

      We have enough rightwing dipshits already. Can confirm that we would not like you and rather take some based refugees who just want to live their lives.

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          10 months ago

          Every time they don’t to get exactly what they want they always say they’re going to leave.

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            Okay, the rightwing dipshits aren’t the ones where there’s actually a chance they’d leave.

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      10 months ago

      Legitimate question: what is the concern with declining birth rate? Im no expert but it seems like the world currently has way more people than it ever had before and even in specific developed nations those nations were arguably doing just fine 50 years ago when they had lower populations too. What is the risk here?

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        10 months ago

        A lot of economics is based on the idea that the population will keep growing. For example, pensions will fail if there are too many olds taking money out and not enough youngs paying into it.

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        Look at Japan right now to see where any other country will be in ~30 years. The declining birthrate has resulted in an unstable top heavy population full of old people dependent on the few young people. Which leads to more strain on young people, which means a lower birthrate. Which leads to more old people vs young.

        The risk isn’t the pure population number, it was great 50 years ago because everyone was young, it’s the distribution of the age in the population.

        But somehow people want to disagree with each other so much this is labeled a right wing talking point because conservatives encourage having kids. No, we need kids, and now all of them are going to be raised by conservatives.

        Idiocracy becomes less of a meme and more of a documentary every year.

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      I both want to get as many people out as possible and also see people stay and fix it. The problem is that fixing the US will take several years after it starts, and there’s no way it starts until it totally collapses, IMHO… At least the way it’s going.

      Edit: Also, you know, fuck the border. Borders are fundamentally racist and stupid, so the whole concept of any person being illegal is just fucking dumb.

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        I agree, nothing will change until collapse. I don’t think I have time for that though, I don’t have another 35 years just to start to fix things. Besides why would we go outside and find common ground with our neighbors when we can sit inside and create further, deeper, more specific barriers between each other.

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      10 months ago

      If Americans with useful skills applied for citizenship they would absolutely get it.

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      Thanks, we’re good, don’t need any more children nor natalist bs.