they realize that every culture’s cuisine is dictated by the poor doing what they can with what they have, right? Do you think my italian-american ancestors were hype to eat beans and paste every day for its own sake? No, they did it because they had 170 kids each and could only find work throwing garbage over the hill into the pond for 2 cents a year. It’s just that they also made it really, really good.
“When this food is made good its made good” also applies to British cuisine. You’re telling me that brandy cake made with a type of fat that supercedes butter for all of its baking properties, Corinthian raisins and a warm brandy/cream sauce doesn’t sound good?
I didn’t say anything about British food being good or not good. I said that if you’re gonna start with the premise that British food is bad and try to explain it with poverty you’re gonna have to explain why impoverished people everywhere else are turning out bangers like Max Martin in 1999.
But I described the most basic recipe for spotted dick, made in the most peasant way possible?
Brandy is the cheapest alcohol and easily home-made, the peasant-way of preserving both fruit and bread (/cake) in the UK, suet is more peasant than butter or other forms of fat because it is the rendered fat from discarded animal carcasses, but that process actually makes it more rich .
You gave a specific example of one recipe, to combat the notion that Italian food is generally better. I don’t know how to explain it any differently to you, but you’re not having the same conversation as the rest of us right now.
they realize that every culture’s cuisine is dictated by the poor doing what they can with what they have, right? Do you think my italian-american ancestors were hype to eat beans and paste every day for its own sake? No, they did it because they had 170 kids each and could only find work throwing garbage over the hill into the pond for 2 cents a year. It’s just that they also made it really, really good.
“When this food is made good its made good” also applies to British cuisine. You’re telling me that brandy cake made with a type of fat that supercedes butter for all of its baking properties, Corinthian raisins and a warm brandy/cream sauce doesn’t sound good?
I didn’t say anything about British food being good or not good. I said that if you’re gonna start with the premise that British food is bad and try to explain it with poverty you’re gonna have to explain why impoverished people everywhere else are turning out bangers like Max Martin in 1999.
I just did though?
Their point is: poor people recipes from Italy taste better than poor people recipes from the UK, generally.
Your point is: it’s possible to make UK recipes taste better if you do them a certain way, specifically.
They are speaking generally and you are speaking specifically. Hope that helps you understand.
But I described the most basic recipe for spotted dick, made in the most peasant way possible?
Brandy is the cheapest alcohol and easily home-made, the peasant-way of preserving both fruit and bread (/cake) in the UK, suet is more peasant than butter or other forms of fat because it is the rendered fat from discarded animal carcasses, but that process actually makes it more rich .
You gave a specific example of one recipe, to combat the notion that Italian food is generally better. I don’t know how to explain it any differently to you, but you’re not having the same conversation as the rest of us right now.
I figured “when food is made good its good” kinda covered that.