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    how evil, maybe one day people will understand that marijuana, along with all the other drugs that people seem to think aren’t harmful despite having existed in our societies for 100 years, are a threat to individuals, the broader society, and deserve to be completely outlawed

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        the one’s that teach people that harmful substances are good lol, take your shite words and come back with an argument

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          Prohibition of things never works. It only creates an unregulated black market, and a new type of criminal to incarcerate.

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            less people would consume the prohibited substance because it’s not something that is required to live, and it would never have been something that appeared in culture if it weren’t permitted by people as it is now, the only reason that alcohol didnt work in the prohibition is because it was most people’s lifestyle to drink on occasions

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              Really? Because I’ve never lived in a place where cannabis is legal, and I’ve been consuming it near daily for about 19 years now.

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          Wait, you’re not trolling? You actually believe this? Are you a kid, or did the DARE propaganda actually work on you?

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              Okay, so it wasn’t DARE then, it was whatever brand of DARE your country has. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. If you aren’t a troll, then you really need to sit down and think about why you have the opinion of a 12 year old.

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                it takes no genius to simply search for answers and know that weed is linked to poor development if consumed during adolescence, and it also takes no genius to see how retarded frequent smokers of it get when they cant get any

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                  Nobody is advocating for giving weed to children in this thread…

                  And you’re argument about frequent smokers being ‘retarded’ isn’t even true. I know plenty of people who smoke. You’re just making stuff up.

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                    and i’ve seen many more people who act retarded over it than who smoke it and manage to remain normal-appearing, i’d reckon you’re making stuff up

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        alcohol is because we’ve had it for thousands of years and it has been known to be fine when consumed in moderation (something 99% of people can do), whereas tobacco is not something that you can just “smoke on occasion”, it is exclusively smoked either by those trying it for the first time, or by those who are hooked already (not to mention the fact that alcohol is much worse than tobacco over a lifetime regardless)

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          Then you should be fine with people smoking weed since there’s evidence of its use since 10,000 BC. About 7000 years before the creation of beer by the Egyptians

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            Nonsense! God created the earth like 2000ish years ago, and the devils lettuce only grew because of your vile sins ;-)

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            weed was not made in lab in the 90s. People continue to use weed now and have for a long time and yet it causes less problems than alcohol. Never has anybody died from consuming too much marijuana.if you’re arguing that alcohol is safe but weed isn’t, you are not being reasonable at all. People die from over consumption of alcohol, people get in fights and arguments, with alcohol. Weed is less likely to do all those things.

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            there is no evidence of it being consumed and not having negative benefits, unlike beer

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              Therapeutic Effects of Cannabis and Cannabinoids

              Chapter highlights:

              In adults with chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting, oral cannabinoids are effective antiemetics.

              In adults with chronic pain, patients who were treated with cannabis or cannabinoids are more likely to experience a clinically significant reduction in pain symptoms.

              In adults with multiple sclerosis (MS)-related spasticity, short-term use of oral cannabinoids improves patient-reported spasticity symptoms.

              Alcohol is literally poison, marijuana is not. Gtfo with your ignorance and fear mongering and do some research before you try to spread your lies

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          It turns out that even “moderate” alcohol consumption is likely very bad for you.

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            false, i can’t name a single person i know who has suffered medical issues related to alcohol consumption who i know personally

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              Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one’s prior beliefs or values.

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                it’s not a tendency when it’s factual lmao

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              Wow, when are they giving you the novel price for your extra science-y methods of sciencing?

              If only those loser scientists knew they could get their answers by casually observing a few of their friends we could’ve had hover cars by now.

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                it’s one that evidently works

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          I have been smoking cigars and pipes “on occasion” for 20+ years. And by “on occasion” I mean “between a few times per year and a couple times per month”. In fact, almost every cigar/pipe smoker I know is exactly the same way. Cigarettes, however, are a COMPLETELY different beast. You just can’t conflate all tobacco products like that.

          Also, use of weed predates beer.

          So… wrong on all counts.

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      Well, you’re completely wrong. On so many levels.

      First, the majority of other people don’t obsess over finding things to be afraid of. You did not base your opinion on any kind of empirical evidence. You need something to be afraid of in other to justify your perspective, and drugs are an easy target. Second, with regards to hard drugs that do present a clear danger to the user, prohibition is not effective and never will be. Addiction is a medical issue. Criminalization denies the victim any realistic chance of rehabilitation, not to mention penalizing them in specific ways that will only be likely to increase their likelihood of abusing drugs in the future.

      Way to broadcast your lack of empathy for your fellow man

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      If we are going to start outlawing things that could, in some very vague and abstract way, be considered “harmful”, then we would have to start banning many more things than just low-level drugs.

      Cannabis is a natural plant that has existed throughout the entirety of human history. Medicine to some, religion to others, recreation and inspiration for the rest. Likewise, cannabinoids are a natural chemical compound that can be found naturally in your body and the body of most living things on Earth. Cannabis makes us feel good because it just so happens to contain the same kinds of cannabinoids that our body produces, which also make us feel good.

      Cannabis might be addictive in the same way that anything pleasurable is addictive. But you don’t see people dying of cannabis overdoses, nor do you see people winding up on the streets with crippling cannabis addictions that overwhelm their entire life.

      It’s a safe, natural, and mild high, and there has never been any good reason for it to be illegal.

      edit: Oh, he’s just a troll. Whatever.

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        I’m all in favor of legalizing weed, and in fact I would like to abolish the prescription system in it’s entirety, however, I do think that the rhetoric of pro-weed ppl treats it like it’s entirely harmless, which is a dangerous sentiment.

        I went through some serious symptoms from long term use. The hemispheres of my brain split into 2 different ppl, my body’s sense of propioception got all fucked up, and I threw up a whole lot. Not fun. And my memory basically was shot from use, that lasted even after I stopped using. I originally started bc I couldn’t afford to see a psychiatrist and I needed antidepressants, it was the closest thing I could get (abolish the fking prescription system). I had no idea that it had any long term effects, the way ppl talk you think it’s only good. I mean I’m sure everyone’s different, but ppl at least need a warning abt that sort of shit.

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        that’s a cool comment, unfortunately you took the time out of your day to respond

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          Your bait is weak, and it goes nowhere immediately. Look how quickly you had to stoop to edgelord verbage to keep the hook.

          If youre going to troll, at least do it well. Its a fuckin embarassment to be a bad troll

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            response no. 3, keep it coming :D

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              See, like this. Youre already out of responses, and the thread is bare bones.

              You dont even get that Im baiting you into getting banned. Did you start doing this without reading any of your instances site rules?

              This is sloppy work, you need to step up your game.

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                i’ve been here for like 6 months lol, if i truly felt like the rules were an issue, i’d up and make my own server for it, but please do keep whining to your lord :)

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                  You know your mom would notice the electric bill if you set up a server

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                    looks like someone has never heard of servers being able to be turned off while not in use/low power usage devices being used as servers :D

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          Took time out of my day? TOOK TIME OUT OF MY DAY!?! This is my day. This is my whole week if I deem it entertaining enough. Maybe it’s because I’m all burnt out on weed, but I have nothing better to do, and replying to you is just as much fun as the expert trolling you think you are doing. I live here. I won’t leave until it is burned to the ground. If you want a competition of who can last the longest with out getting bored, then I hope you have diet soda and nuggies handy.

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            you get awfully heated up when presented with prophetical statements, are you judas?

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              Sorry, I was just acting the part. Let me tone it down for you. No, I’m right because of the things I call facts and you can’t tell me otherwise because I’m just a troll

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                  But but but, the things I see with my eyes are true, and you say the things you see are true, and that’s like totally opposites. How do we get to keep making facts with our eyes if every one sees it differently

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                    well you see, mr. cadeillac, i wield divine intellect and wisdom

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        No need for whataboutism here, the original statement you’re replying to is already demonstrably false. You can easily address their actual argument.