• WoahWoah@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    We ain’t doing shit “when the boomers die” except fight over water and resources on a dying world. Like, I appreciate the optimism, but…

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      9 months ago

      Besides that a significant portion of the youth is turning hard-right as we speak. Young progressives always think all young people are like them.

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        That’s paired with an even greater portion turning far-left. Overall, Gen Z is far more progressive than reactionary, though there are radical fascists as well.

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          9 months ago

          I haven’t seen any data or polling that supports this. A larger portion of young people are “more liberal,” but I’ve not seen anything that says that the extensions of the far, radical right have been met with equal (let alone greater) turns towards leftist political ideology.

          Perhaps you just mean center-left people refer to themselves as “leftists” more often? That’s more of a result of the shift in the Overton window than any actual groundswell of leftist support.

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              Thanks for the Wikipedia link.

              That you don’t see the difference between the hyper-radicalization of the right and the “progressive pro-government” tendencies of Gen Z is precisely what I’m describing.

              You spend most of your time on this platform talking about videogames and coffee occasionally punctuated by airy anti-capitalist sentiments. The young–and typically white and male–hard right talk about guns and politics, errant and blind though it is, and they train for revolution.

              There is no growing revolutionary sentiment on the left that is meeting, matching, or exceeding the violent revolutionary discourse and “propaganda of the deed” by the right.

              We’re losing. Hiding behind a hope expressed by a Wikipedia article that maybe this “progressive” and “pro government” sentiment is actually what will pull us out of this death spiral actually makes me more pessimistic about the future.

              Go play Starfield.

              “Haha.”

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                There’s radicalization on both sides, but the general trend is to the left.

                What prompted you to dig through my comment history? That’s extremely weird.

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                  9 months ago

                  Well, my point is, no, it’s not. One “side” is growing more radical, and the other “side” is being more adamant about their social media comments. Does that seem equal to you?

                  “Dig” through your comment history? I took 30 seconds, clicked on your name, scrolled a few times, and then came back. What prompted me to do that? To see if your general profile matches the broad Pollyanna ignorance you’re expressing in this conversation.

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                    Your point is unsubstantiated, not mine. Radicalization is more common in general among all demographics, but increasingly so for Gen-Z, which is combined with the increased trend to the left. There are more fascists among Gen-Z than normal, but this is in tandem with far more Socialists.

                    Your 30 seconds of scrolling resulted in a whopping 2 posts worth of comments, I talk about Starfield maybe once a month and coffee maybe 3 times a month, lol.

                    Call me ignorant all you want, but absolutely none of what you’ve said has mattered, and has been entirely ignorant this comment string.

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        a significant portion of the youth is turning hard-right as we speak

        Normal thing to happen when the enthusiasm of youth is blunted by betrayal and rejection and defeat.

        Like, fuck Fascism, but I can’t really blame a guy who has soured on the whole “Hope and Change” thing. Then having your brain hooked up to the YouTube algorithm of Andrew Tates and JBPs just blasting away all the braincells that aren’t killed by booze and vaping…

        The allure of Fascism is the promise of a big ethnic club to end your sense of alienation and despair combined with a near-to-hand enemy you can lash out at with the consent of the police. The Methamphetamine of ideologies - powerful highs and hard crashes. Its what you take when you’re scrambling at the edge of a psychic pit.

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      Not only that, cities don’t even want to pony up the cash for repairing potholes let alone massive landscaping projects.