It’s definitely an issue that’s not going away. The DNC really needs to figure it out and stop pretending that it doesn’t matter to voters.
The alternative being a ~4 years younger criminal without any morals.
How about another Dem which Biden backs and fully promotes?
It doesn’t have to be a Hobson’s choice of dinosaurs, the Dems are forcing this situation upon America. It’s not too late for someone else to step in.
Biden: #PleaseDropOut
Yes it absolutely is too late for someone else to step in. You’re voting for Biden or you’re holding the door open for Trump. The sooner you come to terms with that, that better you’ll feel about it.
Thank you. I’ve been trying to get this message across. Any vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote in favor of fascism and ushers in our first dictator which likely won’t be trump, it will be whoever takes over when he has a heart attack or something.
Feel free to vote for whoever you want in the primary, that includes writing in your pet if you feel like it. In the big show, anyone who actually likes our freedom and democracy (with its myriad of flaws) will vote Biden, everyone else will vote for dictatorship even if it doesn’t look like it in the moment.
If the DNC is so concerned about protecting democracy from fascism, then they need to instruct Biden to step down immediately and stop wasting time before tapping his replacement.
Biden’s approval rating is in the gutter. No incumbent in federal office has ever come back to win with such a disastrously low approval rating, not once in the history of USA. You’re telling me Biden is the one who will buck the norm and mount a miraculous comeback? If you really think this, then it appears Blue MAGA is real after all. Get a clue, Jack.
> Any vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote in favor of fascism
a vote for Biden is a vote for fascism, but a vote for Cornel West or Jill Stein is a vote against fascism.
West is going to need to get on the ballot in more states than just Alaska and Oregon if that’s going to happen. LOL.
In the end, it will be West at 1 to 2% of the vote and Stein at 5 to 6% of the vote, same as usual for fringe candidates.
can’t talk down passing that 5% threshold. it’s a big deal
It’s insignificant in a national election.
Wait until the convention. The DNC will pick his replacement.
You need to go to bed and let the adults talk.
Liberals in their smug arrogance love to infantilize.
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Ozma’s opinion is that of the optimistic juvenile. They’re absolutely wrong, but it’s going to take them one or more failed election cycles to learn that. It’s OK to be optimistic, the realism will creep in later.
You better HOPE they replace Biden at the convention if you really want to defeat Trump.
Seriously. Go sit in the corner and eat your paste, the adults are talking.
Nothing will happen at the Democratic convention unless Trump is removed during the Republican convention a month earlier.
Biden is the de facto head of the Democratic party. He’s not going anywhere unless he chooses to.
This is correct. If Biden “wins the primary”, then immediately steps down, it becomes a battle for delegates at the convention. Of course the invisible hand of the DNC will actually choose, but it will at least have the surface level appearance of a democratic process.
It will? The democrats already disenfranchised an entire state, but no one cares about that.
Which state would that be? The one that still held a primary and wrote him in?
Yup
No, I think it’s too late for someone to try and beat Biden in the primary (though I did vote for a challenger, personally). But if Biden came out and said:
Hey Jack - I’m fucking old and tired. So much like my buddy cornpop I’m going to step aside. Let me introduce yall to this Governor Newsom cat, he’ll be a strong advocate for that climate. No cap, Scranton. Sus.
Then I think it’d probably go over smoothly. Newsom used above purely as an example - there are a lot of people I’d personally prefer… also, there’s Kamala Harris - the person voted second most likely to lose an election, after her mentor of course.
Don’t so patronizing.
Biden is fundamentally incapable of defending Americans from fascism. At best he can slow it down a little.
But like? The border policy? He just moved wayyyyy over to the right on. As things stand, I don’t know if it will ever come back.
So no, I won’t feel better about it, because we’re still getting fucked in the ass.
It’s not about my feefees for “my team”. This is about seriously addressing the threat of fascism head on, and recognizing the truth that polling data is telling us - Biden isn’t going to cut it, and virtually any other Dem will do. Americans just don’t want to vote for Biden. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better chance we have of avoiding another disastrous Trump presidency.
Actual subtitle:
The Quinnipiac University poll showed that 49 percent of registered voters support Biden and 45 percent support Trump, but 67 percent said the 81-year-old president is too old to serve another term.
10% don’t realize Trump is only 4 years younger…
Another day another post by OP bashing Bidens age.
Do you deny Biden’s age is a factor for voters?
Not a big enough issue to go and try to replace him with like 8 months to go before the election. Who, exactly, is a better fit?
They’re going to Newsom him.
Way too old. Way too genocidal. What too owned by corporations. Way too everything except not trump. This is what US freedom feels like boys and girls. Take a long deep breath of that late stage capitalism and know if ‘things’ can’t make you happy you’re fucked… but have you tried the pop rock oreos?
If this was the most important election of our lifetimes, like they claim, they would have spent the money and resources to primary Biden with someone worthy of winning.
Running a primary against a sitting president is a fast road to losing the election.
They need to reearn their position with every election, that’s why it’s a separate term. Refusing to primary is undemocratic and prevents accountability. They are not entitled to 2 full terms unless they’ve earned them
That’s never been the way it has worked. The sitting president for either party is the candidate unless they choose otherwise. See Johnson in '68.
The last time a sitting President had a serious primary challenger, Carter in 1980, they lost in a landslide.
The reasoning is simple:
If a sitting President doesn’t have the confidence of the party, they don’t have the confidence of the voters either.
All the polling shows voters dont have confidence in him, the DNC in their arrogant hubris does have confidence because they believe they are entitled to every vote not Republican. And the disenfranchised will vote for Biden regardless of what he’s done. Liberals claimed they could hold him accountable after the election in 2020, and making him earn votes is one way of doing it
No, the polling is only asking and reporting half the question:
“Do you think Biden is too old to be President?”
Yes, anyone with half a brain should think that.
“Will you vote for him anyway?”
If the alternative is Trump? Yes.
That is a completely disingenuous reply. All of the polling lists every single question that was asked, what demographic it was asked of, and the results of those questions in the methodology used.
It largely depends on the poll, but the reporting is often faulty as well.
67 percent of voters said the 81-year-old president is too old to effectively serve another term
Fucking politico - that headline is awfully misleading.
If he dies in office, and he’s unlikely to, that’s what VPs are for.
in Biden’s case it is a former prosecutor not to even mention Trump’s VP
If your house is on fire and two elderly firefighters show up-- one with a hose and the other with a can of gas-- it’s not a hard decision who’s the man for the job.
have you had to take care of an elderly relative before?
we do
would not trust either of the two firefighters and would question if their was a fire
my grandfather is Biden’s age and yes age does mean something though it does not mean do not respect the elderly and their accomplishments and life achievements
body does age and it is not in the same condition from birth until you die and Trump and Biden are no different not to mention the two both have piss poor resumes
need to equip and train and educate younger generations to take to lead at a certain point
<.< Are you saying you’d let your house burn down instead of picking one of the two firemen?
Like, good on you for having a stance. But this seems like the “I refuse to choose” answer with a long winded explanation behind it. In which case you house burns down.
lot different on my end with bipartisan laws and policies taking my right to vote away so yes would have to let the house burn down because not allowed to use the service
I’m 43 and I’m not sure you’d want me on a fire hose either.
I’ve helped care for multiple older adults though between mine and my wives families. and there’s a lot of variability in that age group. My wife’s dad just passed away at 64, his dad passed away last year at 95 and was super fit and clear minded until cancer started to beat his ass in 2020 and his mom is 87 and and walks miles each day and is incredibly fit and active and mentally sharp.
At that age, it’s quite possible for some older adults to still be incredibly capable of some strenuous activity, but those aren’t the ones eating hamberders and diet coke every meal.
too old
too many failed campaign promises such as minimum wage, national healthcare, police reform, worker’s rights, cannabis reform, etcetera
too loud on the wrong issues and too silent on the right issues
too Catholic to defend things like Roe vs Wade
if the vice president did have to take over due to Biden’s health going south would not want a former prosecutor running the country
but hey not allowed to vote thanks to laws and policies Democrats and Republicans both worked on
and calling people out because they do not want Trump or Biden and saying they support fascism for not voting Biden is going too far and is what is wrong in the US
football politics - my team, my color, my letter fuck your team and everyone not on my team cause they suck
what about candidates with an actual resume showing achievements or past accomplishments or what kind of education path did they take or some story explaining why they care to be president
2024
“My name is not Trump and my color is blue and my letter is D.”
versus
“My name is not Biden and my color is red and my letter is R.”
He is so old he used to sniff Betsy Ross’s hair inappropriately.
Edit: He is so old he used to hug Alice Roosevelt for too long.
He is so old he groped Martha Washington.