• Kogasa@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Not sure I understand. How could there possibly be a solution? Isn’t this an inherent problem with federation? You can’t un-share information

    • paholg@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      But you can delete your copy, ask others nicely to delete theirs, and refuse to accept more copies of the same thing.

      I’m not sure if Lemmy supports any of this, but it seems pretty important for e.g. child porn.

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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        8 months ago

        How can you refuse to accept more copies of the same thing, when you deleted all the version it can compare itself to?

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      8 months ago

      There could be a legally binding contract stating that any deletion request must be forwarded to all parties it was send to, and that upon receiving such a request the data must be deleted. I do not think this would be unreasonable to ask to servers, especially as this deletion receipt could be fully automated.

      • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        Or there could be a delay of one minute before posts get federated, giving the user the option to quickly delete a comment or post.

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          8 months ago

          That’s a great idea :) Maybe you can submit a feature request for this on GitHub?

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        8 months ago

        legally binding contract

        Maybe, but consider that federated servers may be located in entirely different legal jurisdictions, so this might be hard to create, let alone enforce.

        • perviouslyiner@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          When writing a contract you can just specify which legal system the parties agree to use - this is quite common.

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          8 months ago

          I don’t think it will ever come to a lawsuit, nobody would ever want that. Under the GDPR you must be able to delete content, and the server must communicate this to all federated servers. So in effect, there is already a legally binding agreement between all servers that this deletion request must be honored (for people physically in the eu), it’s just not.

          lemmy servers are already breaking the GDPR if they don’t follow forwarded deletion requests from people in the eu. This would just effectively be an extension of this to data from all people.

    • Blackmist
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      8 months ago

      The images aren’t federated afaik. They live on your home instance. If somebody else views them, they’re loaded directly from there.

      However there’s no link between the images and your account. You can’t delete them yourself because Lemmy doesn’t store the “delete token”. They’re effectively orphaned.

      • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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        8 months ago

        Not true, images are federated. Sometimes they are not copied if your instance has a lower image size limit than the instance the image came from (if the image is too large), but generally images are copied between instances.

        • Blackmist
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          8 months ago

          I did check a few embedded images, and they still seemed to be served from the original. So I dunno. Maybe they’re copied and still served from the original, which would be an odd thing to do.

          • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
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            8 months ago

            Aah the embedded ones in comments? Yes to my knowledge those aren’t federated. But pictures posted as posts will be federated.