right after yuzu, fuck this sucks

  • beef_curds [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    I don’t really get what’s happening. Why now and not 10 years ago?

    Previously people would say it wasn’t pursued before because emulation itself is just reverse engineering, which is legal.

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      i think it’s because the next console is coming out next year and they want to discourage anyone from trying to crack it

      they didn’t win a court case, nintendo just threatened to sue and settled on the condition that yuzu (and citra through yuzu) be shut down and pay like 2 million dollars. if nintendo thought they could win they wouldn’t have settled, they would have pushed through and won and permanently rendered emulators illegal. but they couldn’t do that, so they’ll just try and scare everyone off from doing anythign

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        Also the speculation is that the Switch 2 is basically just an upgraded Switch, so the thought is that with very little effort emulators like Yuzu would be able to play Switch 2 games. Nintendo wants to shut it down ahead of that happening to try to prevent the Switch 2 architecture from being cracked for as long as possible.

        That said with Yuzu being open source, Nintendo won’t win that fight in the long term. But it will probably delay the Switch 2 emulator development by quite a bit which their bean counters assume is a win.

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          But it will probably delay the Switch 2 emulator development by quite a bit which their bean counters assume is a win.

          Definitely someone with a spreadsheet out there who can tell you how much money they’ll hypothetically make based on the spread between emulators existing and not existing.

          Although, I won’t lie, I tried out Yuzu for a few months and mostly just got frustrated with all the hoops I had to jump through to make it work. Ended up buying a Switch just to get a seamless play experience (which, in hindsight, I guess I regret?) I have to wonder how much business they’re going to ultimately lose because someone emulated the PS5, got frustrated, and ran off to buy that console instead.

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            Although, I won’t lie, I tried out Yuzu for a few months and mostly just got frustrated with all the hoops I had to jump through to make it work. Ended up buying a Switch just to get a seamless play experience (which, in hindsight, I guess I regret?) I have to wonder how much business they’re going to ultimately lose because someone emulated the PS5, got frustrated, and ran off to buy that console instead.

            I’m the opposite. I have a switch and I’m trying to get emulators working so that Pokemon Scarlet and Xenoblade 3 don’t run like dogshit.

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        9 months ago

        Makes sense, I guess. Fuck Nintendo.

        They’re both open source projects. So it will be interesting how much time they’ll spend playing whackamole. Either way, it will chill development bc at the very least the main devs will probably not go back. Sad.

        Citra going down really hurts because CTGP-7 is such a great project, and I feel like this is going to chill big projects too.

        • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOP
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          i doubt they’ll spend much time on it, they’ve done enough damage already. i bet they’ve already done enough to scare any major projects from developing for long enough that they won’t be around for the first months of launch which is probably the main goal (though obviously if they could shut down all emulation they would)