• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    At least two men who went to Russia expecting to work as “helpers” in the army have died while fighting at the front, their families have said.

    So…

    They volunteered to help the Russian invasion of Ukraine…

    And are mad that they’re having to help the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Sounds like a couple assholes got what they deserve and what they asked for. They wanted to “help” russia

    • Plopp@lemmy.world
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      I don’t think “volunteered” is the right word to use here. Volunteering usually means you want to do the specific work because you believe in the cause and could even do it for free because it’s important to you. These people were promised jobs, admission to universities, visa extensions etc to lure them in. Usually people who get trafficked don’t have too many options in life, so they might have just thought it was a way to provide a future for themselves and their families. And we don’t know what they’d been told said “help” would be. For all we know they might have been told they’d help with making sure captured Ukrainians were safe and treated well.

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        They “volunteered” to help the Russian invasion, just not explicitly in a combat role.

        They got there, and discovered the Russian military isn’t big on free will, and were sent into combat…

        I don’t feel bad at all.

        Because they signed up to help the Russian invasion in exchange for money.

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          Unless you have a source you’re not sharing, you have no idea what they signed up for or why.

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            Let’s connect the dots for you:

            • Russia invaded a sovereign country and is committing genocide.
            • These people signed up to “help” Russia
            • That makes them complicit in genocide and therefore undeserving of sympathy.

            It doesn’t fucking matter exactly what kind of “help” they had in mind; any support for Russia makes them guilty.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            I do, it’s the article your commenting on so I didn’t link it:

            At least two men who went to Russia expecting to work as “helpers” in the army have died while fighting at the front, their families have said.

            I think I’m just gonna block you now tho, don’t want to forget and then try to explain stuff again.

            Have a good life, hope it gets better.

            • Plopp@lemmy.world
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              You really seem to like living life on easy mode where nothing challenges your preconceived ideas of binary simplicities. Pity.

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      If you put out an ad soliciting for a domestic cleaner and then sent me to Gaza to “cleanse the land” I might be rightfully mad even if I knew you were an asshole.

      It sounds like a couple of folks saw a lucrative job offer from a shady company and let their greed get the best of them… it’s hard to judge them too poorly when Palantir and the NSA still find otherwise intelligent people to hire.

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        If the job was advertised by the IDF…

        Yeah, but you’d still be making a bad choice taking a job with a foreign governments military while they actively commit a genocide.

        I just got this article to go off of, but it literally says the job was in the Russian army.

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      It’s because Ukraine is aligned with the West. So they don’t really care about Ukraine, since the West is seen as an adversary to India.

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      You think their own government really gives a shit about the lives of a few hundred or thousand citizens over the profits they can extract from a desperate Russia?

  • Андрей Быдло@sh.itjust.works
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    I’m not 100% sure it’s not India’s way to sidestep the issue and claim they aren’t involved at all. They were telling chances to be sent to the frontline are rather small even for domestic population when promoting said jobs, so it’d be mostly logistics and desk jobs. And 2-3k per month + citizenship could look pretty nice for the lower caste lower income indians, especially since reddit shows there are many rightwingers there, but I’m pretty sure they too would be discriminated here like other asian immigrants, especially POCs and especially in the field of doing violence.