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minus-squaregamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up31·4 months agoFun fact (not really) about Nim: he and the other ASL chimps were HORRIBLY abused. Basically every single one of them. And it was all for nothing, not a single bit of evidence shows that teaching chimps ASL worked and allowed any form of actual communication. Yes, even Koko. https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4
minus-squareMonzcarrolinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9·4 months agoThere is also a good You’re Wrong About podcast episode on this.
minus-squareDasus@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down1·4 months agoWell, communication is definitely shown. But… “speech”, “language”, “sentient thought”? That’s the subjective bit, imo. Communication is easy.
Fun fact (not really) about Nim: he and the other ASL chimps were HORRIBLY abused. Basically every single one of them.
And it was all for nothing, not a single bit of evidence shows that teaching chimps ASL worked and allowed any form of actual communication.
Yes, even Koko.
https://youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4
There is also a good You’re Wrong About podcast episode on this.
Well, communication is definitely shown.
But… “speech”, “language”, “sentient thought”? That’s the subjective bit, imo. Communication is easy.