The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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    I appreciate that there has been some confusion regarding the use of this word. And I also appreciate your sentiment that it would be nice to focus on the positive. However, so much evil throughout history has come from conservatism, that the word weighs heavily with negative connotation that should not be removed.

    In social context, nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.

    Here is a non-political definition, for some clarification. Note the lack of preservation of nature.

    conservative /kən-sûr′və-tĭv/ adjective

    Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change. Traditional or restrained in style.
    "a conservative dark suit."
    Moderate; cautious.
    "a conservative estimate."
    

    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

    (My apologies for the American dictionary reference in a thread about an English person. It was just the easiest one to copy/paste on a phone.)

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      Moderate; cautious.

      Yes, these are my thoughts on the word’s meaning, in large.

      A moderate and cautious approach to change.

      Absolute refusal of change is the extremism part of this definition that seems to be viewed as its defining attribute instead.

      Edit: Maybe this view of mine is flawed, but it’s how I see a Conservative party should be. To avoid unchecked progress, maintain stability and implement only rigorously verified policies, in small, but certain steps. Their core tenets are moderation and cautiousness.

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        Their core tenets are moderation and cautiousness.

        Lol no

        Viewing words that prescriptively is kinda insane and willfully ignorant.

        When someone says “gay”, do you start arguing about how “it has nothing to do with sexuality, it just means carefree’, ‘cheerful’, or ‘bright and showy’.”?

        Cmon. Cmon. CMON

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          It means both. And both meanings started as positive, then one meaning became the focus and the other completely ignored.

          That’s what you should be upset about.

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        Fair enough. If politically conservative people legislated with a moderate, cautious demeanor, I would respect that. In fact, I might even side with them on several policies.

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        The big problem about discussing conservatives / Conservatives here is that this board seems quite US-focused. The British Conservative Party (the current party of UK government) pretty much came in to existence back in the day to “conserve” things and put a check on “progressive / liberal” policies. Conservative means something different whether your context is American-politics or whether it’s politics-politics.