• psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Speaking of mail apps, has anyone used Thunderbird recently? I had used it for a year or two up until . . . a year or two ago (probably two or three, actually) and then switched to kmail to satisfy my masochism. Thunderbird just hadn’t been doing it for me with meh functionality and slightly more meh looks.

    Fast forward to yesterday when I’m updating my steamdeck desktop to use nix stuff instead of rwfus+pacman and I couldn’t get kmail from nix to behave right so I thought I’d give thunderbird another look. I’m several hours into tinkering with it and holy hell has it changed pretty much completely from a few years ago. Looks fantastic and works pretty much exactly how I want/expect it to. Good job mozilla!

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      9 months ago

      Thunderbird is fine.

      Tbh I have no idea what they are doing though, they have more funding than GNOME but after Supernova I didnt see any updates.

      See my list of flatpak repositories

      There is an unofficial Thunderbird nightly Flatpak, that will likely reveal what the hell they are doing.

      So Supernova is kinda nice, mainly a big overhaul of the underlying stuff, making it easier to maintain.

      It lacks a ton of things like Threads (the addon TB Conversation works though). Also their “spaces” bar is useless, as it just opens tabs, so it is redundant. Good idea, but only if it could replace tabs.

      Their search and filter stuff is still the same, really bad. Either displaced in the message list column, as the global search still opens a new tab which is kinda bad UI.

      Some addons broke too, not a big deal though.

      I have the feeling they removed nested filters, which is extremely bad, but filters still work.

      Thunderbird works well.

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        9 months ago

        I believe I read somewhere they’re focusing heavily on the mobile app at the moment (or rather turning K-9 into their mobile app). Once they get that out, we’ll see where the desktop goes.

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        I’ve never found Thunderbird search bad compared to alternatives, as long as I’m not looking to find content inside attachments. Really fast and responsive and being a desktop client without paginated results makes moving and deleting in bulk so much easier. Would love it to be as powerful as Voidtools Everything to get a bit more granular sometimes but otherwise pretty happy with it.

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          9 months ago

          I mean, I think their global search is not that useful, while their inline mail list search is. So I have a cluttered UI with 2 search bars, to supplement the incomplete inline search.

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      9 months ago

      Just started using Thunderbird again a couple of months ago. Like it! I never really stopped liking it, just stopped using it because all the webmail interfaces and “appification”.

      Was just trying to get K-9 Mail working on my phone again (after years of using umpteen different apps) and it’s not as smooth as I remember.

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        9 months ago

        I think they’re talking Kmail from the KDE app suite. I thought they meant K-9 mail.
        Btw If I remember correctly K-9 mail is or is becoming Thunderbird.

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        If K-9 isn’t working well for you, try FairEmail. It’s one of my favourite email clients.

        K-9 has gotten a LOT better over the past few months though.

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      Yeah I’ve started using it again the past year. I use Proton Bridge with Thunderbird, and it works well. Much prefer it to webmail interfaces.

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      9 months ago

      It’s not developed by mozilla anymore. they stopped updating it a couple years ago.