“I voted and things are STILL bad? I was promised everything would change if I voted!”

See how silly that sounds?

Trump radically remade the GOP because his people showed up and voted. Sanders could’ve if we had voted.

If you can’t even get enough people on the Left to show up and vote for a progressive, how on Earth do you expect to enact more radical change?

“Oh no, the bad guys ran ads against us!”

If we can’t overcome horrific barriers like that, how on Earth do you expect wr achieve anything meaningful? Literally all we had to do was get people to show up and vote.

I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism

That’s a very easy view to hold when you aren’t one of the Palestinians who will die because of people like you making the same choice.

Small comfort to the people whom you pretend to care about.

And they’re making silly arguments.

At the end of the day, Sanders got 43% of the vote to Clinton’s 55%. That has nothing to do with Superdelegates. We just couldn’t get enough progressives to go vote. That’s it. That’s the entire issue.

Nope. Maybe re-read the sentence carefully:

The superdelegates weren’t bound to Clinton. If Sanders had kept winning the vote they’d be hard pressed to over-ride the people.

At the end of the day, Sanders had 43% of the vote compared to Clinton’s 55%. That doesn’t involve super delegates, that’s just not enough progressives showed up to win. Pretty simple stuff.

Like, I love the folks claiming we need a revolution etc are also stymied by the need to get the majority of Left leaning Americans to agree with them.

Fair. The state by state process seems so weird to me. (So, we should vote more folks into the DNC and change it! There’s a theme here somewhere…)

The super delegates do not change the fact that Clinton got 3,5 million more votes in the primaries than Sanders did. Or, to put it another way, Sanders got 43% of the vote compared to Clinton’s 55%. Those are voters, not pledged delegates.

Blaming superdelegates is a great way to make sure we don’t change a damn thing. (Also, the DNC changed the role of super delegates afterwards to make them less powerful.)

The superdelegates weren’t bound to Clinton. If Sanders had kept winning the vote they’d be hard pressed to over-ride the people.

I’m not saying you didn’t vote for Bernie, I’m saying not enough people did. This blaming superdelegates is nonsense. Democracy is dificult, people die just to make a protest vote but somehow the fact that Clinton had a lead in uncommitted delegates is too much of a burden? Give me a break. If you want a revolution but can’t actually get the majority of leftist voters to the polls, well, that’s on us.

Oh man, sorry to hear yours is closing! Ours nearly did when the landlord raised the rent but damned if the community didn’t fundraise so that the owners could buy the theatre. It was adorable.

There’s something magic about an Indie theatre. If you ever make it out to Vancouver BC, come to the Rio, I’ll buy you a drink.

How are they rigged? Except for requiring a majority, which seems reasonable, If we can’t get a majority of the Left to agree with us, then what is your alternative? Force them to adopt your ideals?

I don’t feel the need to get into a pissing contest over who is doing more. Nor do I think it’s particularly helpful to demand everyone live like I do. That being said, if you are curious:

I have taken a 25 or 35% pay cut (40 if the last headhunter is to be believed) so I can work for a non profit and get underprivileged kids a post secondary education, haven’t bought sweatshop clothes in a decade etc. I door knock for every election for the party furthest left that can win. I’m Canadian and relatively support my Leftist party’s positions but generally write in where possible.

Were I American, I’d be door knocking, volunteering and everything else for every damned primary as that’s how we move things.

Maybe you don’t?

Sanders didn’t win a majority of the votes so whether the super delegates would’ve over-ridden the votes is fairly irrelevant.

You can argue it wasn’t a completely balanced playing field but there was nothing stopping us from winning the votes except for our refusal to show up rather than bitch online.

Did the DNC stop anyone from voting? There was nothing to stop us from outvoting the establishment. “Oh no, the moderators liked Clinton!” The RNC tried way harder with trump and failed.

Are we not as capable as goddamn republicans?

Ahhh yes, the oh so helpful stand of not voting for a party that could win.

Like, you do understand that Harris likely means fewer dead Palestinians than trump, yes? This isn’t complicated.

Okay, so at least you finally agree that Harris and trump are not the same. This is progress!

Now, if you understand that trump is worse, surely you must see how not helping Harris means you are making it more likely that more Palestinians die?

“The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing.” But hey, I’m sure those good men felt the same way you do.

I am incredibly lucky, my local theatre is a rocking indie one. Like, of your list I’ve seen 6 of them there I think?

Happy Halloween, stay spooky!