What is it about being an audio engineer that means you require it as a 3.5mm headphone jack rather than an adapter for lightning/usb-c or set of headphones with the right port natively?

I sure do love this sub’s unwavering commitment to: ‘I have imagined it, therefore it is possible’

Unlikely as a lot of people would just opt for that and not the full watch

Just swipe between two open apps?

Over on larger devices where it belongs

Yeah. Steve famously loved making thick and bulky tech products

The delusion here is strong. Apparently the only thing holding us back from having credit card thin, flat iPhones with no notch and DSLR quality cameras is one belligerent tech executive.

And for all the money Apple now has this just isn’t something they’re interested in making

Looking at the iPhone and saying… sure would be better without the notch or camera bump.

Any idiot can do that. That wasn’t what made Steve Jobs an memorable tech figure

I literally had a phone that did video calls before the first iphone was announced iPhone.

Stop bringing up irrelevant examples of innovation.

It might be possible without the kinds of compromises we see now, one day, but not at the moment.

No one even has a million dollar proof of concept example.

Yeah. Whatever Apple and Steve want to achieve they just can. Don’t worry about physics and the fact that no one has even presented a demo for perfectly transparent high resolution display.

No one has done it well yet because it literally isn’t possible. You have to significantly compromise the display quality and the camera quality. It’s just not worth it.

No ports and Steve probably would have picked some ideological fight over something stupid and we would still have LCD displays or something.

Agree on the first point.

Or at least it would have taken longer for the sizing splits to happen.

But dude, Steve loved Johnny. Steve probably would have indulged Johnnys worst tendencies for ages. Thinner and thinner phones. Removing more buttons and ports.

What the fuck are you on about?

iPhones under Steve and all the iPods ever were made in China

Steve didn’t have a problem with that when he was alive

We can’t know much about what Steve would have done. But he wouldn’t have released iPhones that thicker with subsequent years.

He also wasn’t a stupid man and he would have seen that camera upgrades are what drive iPhone sales.

Bullshit, way different how.

You think Steve wouldn’t have loved faceID or the edge to edge design?

Steve loved the work Johnny did.

Under Steve perhaps Johnny never would have left and we would never have gotten this swing towards functional design that iPhone now has

All I’m seeing here is a bunch of dorks unhappy that their phone can’t lay flat on a table or that there’s a selfie camera cut out that interferes with watching YouTube videos in full screen.

I highly doubt Steve would have cared that much about either.

I’ll put forward that under Steve by now the iPhone would be port less. That seems like something he would have been right into

Steve would have gone with a before making the phones thicker year over year.

An iPhone 15 with the same camera and no bump would be thicker than the iPhone 4

I no chance

Where does the front facing camera go on an iPhone with no notch and an edge to edge display then?

So we just never would have had an edge to edge design?

Or they would have gotten rid of the selfie camera?

lol so no front facing camera and no changes to quality of the cameras.

As if.

If anything. The type of design trends we saw (and largely hated) under Johnny Ive would have continued for longer under Steve.

Phones would likely be thinner and smaller.