What’s the point of destroying Stonehenge if humanity survives as a cascading result of stopping air travel? Defacing or destroying Stonehenge is not the lynch pin that solves or even moves the needle on climate change.

Worse, if it WORKS it means the next cause that is perhaps not existential is going to come and destroy something else that belongs to humanity. Weirdly, when nation states destroy heritage sites it’s considered a type of war crime, but when it comes up for raising awareness for climate change fuck yeah everyone’s in!

Perfect! Go find a list of parents with one child and punch those babies. Then figure out which grandparents have the most grandkids and stomp their feet. Next set an orphanage on fire when everyone is playing outside. All these things are exactly as related to climate change as putting beans on art or paint on Stonehenge.

Of course you are exactly right: this is why all the great protests you hear about for civil rights, women’s rights, and reproductive rights all started by going where it was safe and fucking up some art and history.

You can have a disruptive impact and not be a totally entitled piece of shit.

Which is, frankly, overwhelmingly stupid.

Nope! I think it’s stupid and entitled and I’d rather distance myself from it and from you. So happy trails!

The last reply I will have here is that by messing with unrelated stuff, you ARE NOT guaranteed to solve the problem or even improve it. This Stonehenge business is totally extraneous. It has nothing to do with anything. If it were permanent, it’s destruction for its own sake. What is more, it’s an implicit green light for more and worse variations of this sort of vandalism or destruction going forward.

If we all make it through, YOU remember you thought it was worth it for the sake of a sound bite and 2 more days in the news for awareness instead of even trying to address the actual problem: airlines, shipping companies, cruise services, coal plants, etc etc etc.

Fucking up history for news hits is stupid, selfish, and ultimately not even particularly effective.

And I don’t want to devalue the cause because we are on the same side of it, but those bits of destruction are still legitimately incidental and not central to the cause.

To put this another way, let’s suppose that we stop climate change in as sound a way as we responded to CFCs and the hole in the ozone layer. Two years later, in support of women’s rights, St. Peters Basilica is destroyed before lent. In support of trans rights, angel falls Venezuela is irreparably dammed on the cliffs before earth day. To bring awareness to police brutality the following year, the main chambers of the Great pyramid is collapsed.

It is all just stuff. But if your unrelated cause is justified in doing actual damage (which I know didn’t really happen yet), why not the next cause? Sure, climate change is an existential threat so maybe there is leeway, but it won’t be the last one. I see that you find it important to make sure we protect where we are going, but I also think it’s important to protect where we have been. It’s not something to be taken lightly or for the sake of “awareness” to destroy our own history.

On the one hand, the roaches may be all that’s left to enjoy our history; on the other hand, if the people and nature are all that’s left and our history is gone, I find that only marginally better than having not existed at all.

You break eggs because you need eggs. There are casualties of war because civilians and infrastructure are near the opposing force. There’s a word for doing that stuff when it’s not necessary: war crimes.

Find me a single revolution that was won or significantly enabled by defacing a heritage site or a priceless work of art as a core tactic.

You’ve created a false dichotomy. There is no need to trivialize shared treasures or heritage in pursuit of any cause in order to save anything or anyone. You’ve decided in some Machiavellian twist that whatever cause you think is truly just is more important than anything other people might value.

It is absolutely important to protect our future, ourselves, and the life we share the planet with, but not by throwing tantrums with unrelated collateral damage. Fight for the climate by fighting for the climate, not by desecrating churches/monuments/art/nature in some weird plight to accidentally piss off the right people and get more TV time.

I picked living things intentionally because there are people who will put more value on heritage and “stuff” than those lives. For example, if I had to choose between the very last rhino and the Great pyramid, I wouldn’t pick the rhino, stonehenge or all of the orangutans is a different discussion. Even any one person weighed against some objects (or other species) is not a cut and dry discussion. It’s totally shitty to think you get to pick what’s more or less important for everyone.

The first time an activist jumps through a plane engine will get a lot more press and is better targeted, and I don’t mean that in a casual / flippant / dismissive way. A spree of vandalism to aircraft engines or supply lines would also do a fine job at a lower cost. People won’t stop traveling because one monument gets defaced temporarily or permanently.

Same as going to see whales or a rhinoceros. Why not spray paint an elephant? Cut down the biggest redwood tree! I mean there are PEOPLE who are starving!

Relics of humanity AND nature AND all the stuff in nature belong to everybody, not just rich assholes. Wrecking these things to draw attention to other topics is peak entitlement.

No way man. In rare occasions, like when eating a Jimmy John’s sub, real Hellman’s mayo is the only answer. Sometimes in BBQ dressings / sauces you also can’t substitute. For basically everything else, ESPECIALLY sandwiches, there is no beating the tangy zip of miracle whip, to quote their old commercials.

As an Indiana boy, it’s the only mayo I had until I was a man, and I have no regrets.

Today’s vocab word is: licentious. Or if he is actually paying a boatload, profligacy.

Stuffing a turkey won’t give you food poisoning, you gotta eat it for that option.

Just like Subaru wrx! Except those always come with the acoustics of a lawnmower and a bag of pop corn…

Generally a prick as far as I’m aware

What the island halfway down the shaft that’s way off the mainland?

Heard it was actually his brother richard, but my source isn’t rock hard… Er, rock solid I mean.

Bro just carry your own gun. Not just red hats are armed or allowed to be armed.

“retirfed”: can we not proofread our articles in 2024? The number of first sentence typos these days is ridiculous. It’s especially bad when the article discusses something with some gravitas.

Who is this even written for? What a duh article.

If you want to lab around on the cheap then sure get a mini PC, if you need small form factor to do a sane standalone task get a pi. If you’re trying to actually get off the ground in self hosted hardware, build a pc (or a server rig) and don’t buy rpi or mini PC: that’s not in the article, but it’s free advice.