zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]

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  • The DS9 episode was Badda-Bing Badda-Bang and it was Vic Fontaine’s 1950s Vegas casino.

    I always liked that moment as you said because it is someone acknowledging the problem created with historical programs in a world that has moved passed that history.

    I like that Yates’ counter-argument is that it might be nice to experience history as it should have been, rather than how it really was.

    I don’t really come down on either side but it’s an interesting way to look at it.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if it was Avery Brooks who asked for the scene tbh. He was often vocally critical of some choices because he didn’t want to be just another black character they were they often written. It’s why he liked his relationship with Jake Sisko so much.

    On a related note, the episode If Wishes Were Horses script was changed from a leprechaun into Rumplestiltskin because Colm Meaney objected to the Irish stereotype.


  • The thing I like about T&T versus the new TOS-era Trek stuff is that T&T knows that TOS looks like crap, but it plays around with it and it feels very humble when showing its roots. It appreciates the old show while also poking fun at it.

    Kurtzman Trek feels like it’s embarrassed by the fact that Star Trek was once a show that had buttons glued to cardboard sets and blinky lights, and the ship was a cute little model that flew past the camera. It’s just like “actually TOS never happened, everything was always cold blue-tinged steel and all displays and consoles were all floating holograms (don’t get me started on how much I hate transparent holograms as a display and touchscreen), and everyone was zipping around at infinite speed and all ships had a shuttle contingent of 10,000 (if that shitty Season 2 finale of DIS is to be taken seriously)”. Oh, and we also just have all this technology that people in the older shows said was brand new but now it’s been around for a century. Riker walking into the holodeck with wonder and awe was because he was an idiot who never saw this 100-year-old technology. What a dipshit.

    Even the edgiest the show got in Berman-era with ENT still had a fair amount of care put into it to show that it was still a TOS-prequel. A great deal of attention was paid to the set to make it look both futuristic for the 00s but also like a precursor to sci-fi from the 60s. DIS and PIC just look like every other shitty sci-fi property out there.

    There’s no love. They just treat old-Trek like something that you can harvest images, references, and iconography from.