Not really. If your goal is to undo “retreating state support,” you can do that without praising far-right regimes aiming to restrict women’s rights to bodily autonomy.
The fact that they gloss over that little aspect is suspicious.
Their website is conspicuously opaque regarding its funding, and “stop population decline” is curiously close to (but notably more palatable than) the 14 Words, while still acting as an effective dog-whistle for people familiar with those words.
Look, organisations with unpleasant views aren’t universally stupid. Turning Point states upfront that its mission is to “identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote freedom”, but dig down and you find fun stuff like this: https://www.tpusa.com/live/pro-choicers-are-sick-and-twisted
I’d also like to note that praising some historically left-wing policies, and criticising some loonies, should not mean that you stop looking critically at the other things a person says.
Authoritarian policies that deny women choice aren’t limited to right-wing governments. If you support women’s rights to choice, Hungary is not a country you would praise.
‘Baby machines’: eastern Europe’s answer to depopulation
The conference in Budapest opened with a sand animation video of migrants rushing towards Europe, and was laced with references to the “great replacement” conspiracy theory, which suggests that shadowy forces want to replace so-called “native” Europeans with outsiders. “There are political forces in Europe who want a replacement of population for ideological or other reasons,” Orbán told the conference.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/baby-bonuses-fit-the-nationalist-agenda-but-do-they-work
You are right, you do need to weigh everything they said
Besides the poor name choice and a willingness to give some praise to right wingers when they increase social benefit, the vast majority of the site content is items we all can agree on like increasing Housing supply, promoting working from home, increase benefits, etc
With that in mind, I can understand why you are cautious because the worse thing the site could be are smart and patient right wingers
And best we are dealing with progressives with an obsession over population decline because of brain worms
My money is on we are dealing with a group of people with brain worms
Not really. If your goal is to undo “retreating state support,” you can do that without praising far-right regimes aiming to restrict women’s rights to bodily autonomy.
The fact that they gloss over that little aspect is suspicious.
Their website is conspicuously opaque regarding its funding, and “stop population decline” is curiously close to (but notably more palatable than) the 14 Words, while still acting as an effective dog-whistle for people familiar with those words.
Might be? The site itself has attacked Elon Musk and Peter Thiel (https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/silicon-valley-pronatalists-against-wfh/) , so it’s probably not funded by them. It also praises WFH, Paid Leave, Unions at the like, which makes it less likely its funded by the right.
Look, organisations with unpleasant views aren’t universally stupid. Turning Point states upfront that its mission is to “identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote freedom”, but dig down and you find fun stuff like this: https://www.tpusa.com/live/pro-choicers-are-sick-and-twisted
I’d also like to note that praising some historically left-wing policies, and criticising some loonies, should not mean that you stop looking critically at the other things a person says.
Authoritarian policies that deny women choice aren’t limited to right-wing governments. If you support women’s rights to choice, Hungary is not a country you would praise.
You are right, you do need to weigh everything they said
Besides the poor name choice and a willingness to give some praise to right wingers when they increase social benefit, the vast majority of the site content is items we all can agree on like increasing Housing supply, promoting working from home, increase benefits, etc
With that in mind, I can understand why you are cautious because the worse thing the site could be are smart and patient right wingers
And best we are dealing with progressives with an obsession over population decline because of brain worms
My money is on we are dealing with a group of people with brain worms