• Syldon
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    TLDR - Carney chucking out chaff to deflect from his money printing that’s helped cause worst inflation in 50 years

    Can you back this claim up?

    Carney gave warnings regarding Brexit and was proved correct. Inflation halved under Carney until 2016. His response to quell the market’s reaction actually saved the UK from plummeting. Carney was responsible for making banks accountable for their own misdemeanours, instead of expecting the tax payer to bail them out. If Carney wants to stand up and state Brexit was stupid, then I am with him.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-carney-factbox-idUSKBN2080VQ

      • Syldon
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        So Carney is responsible for something that happened 3 years after he left office? A problem which was really the fault of Truss? If the BOE (under Andrew Bailey) did not use quantitative easing at that point all pensions funds in the UK would have collapsed.

        You may want to learn about economics and the role of the BOE. You clearly are listening only to a government’s media script, a government that has only one policy and that is to blame everyone else. There is a ton of stuff this government could do to lower inflation; it has done nothing except talk. There not been one single policy that has helped reduce inflation. Inflation is only lowering now because it is peaking out. The IMF stated last year that UK inflation would drop to 5% if policies at that time were left unchanged. We are above that 5% because you cannot predict things precisely.

        • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          As Haldane said, they printed too much for too long and kept rates too low.

          As did the Fed and ECB…

          Thanks for the condescending tone, I’m not listening to any government script. I listen to fund and asset managers, the bearish ones have been saying this for years.

          The govt didn’t have to let the energy shock into the economy, France and others didn’t, so that is on them as they didn’t use policy to address it sufficiently.

          Truss and Kwasi announcing unfunded tax cuts to bond whales sealed their fate.

          Perhaps a chart of M2 explains it better. Carney left less headroom pre COVID.

          • Syldon
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            The spike in 2016 was in response to Brexit. How is Brexit the fault of the BOE. Truss and Kwazi were after Carney left as was the energy crisis. You have conspiracy theoritus and absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You are latching onto threads with no substance.

          • HelloThere@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            The govt didn’t have to let the energy shock into the economy, France and others didn’t, so that is on them as they didn’t use policy to address it sufficiently.

            France’s energy mix contains significantly less gas, when compared to the UK. They barely use any for electricity generation, see below, compared to the UK where gas is ~40% of our annual mix.

            http://gridwatch.templar.co.uk/france/ https://www.mygridgb.co.uk/historicaldata/

            That is why France was better insulated from a supply side gas shock.

              • HelloThere@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                And EDF were able to cap prices at 4% because of their nuclear infrastructure which meant the cost of subsidising that 4% cap was considerably less than the equivalent would have been in the UK.

                As always, context is important.

                  • HelloThere@sh.itjust.works
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/ES

                    Spain uses a lot of gas, and prices have increased substantially. Between 2017 and 2019 the price per MWh hovered around €50, in 2020 it fell to €34. In 2021 it jumped to €112, and 2022 to €167.

                    The government started removing excess profits in 2021 - see here - and more recently are also subsidising the cost to generators where needed, see here. This was at the peak of Spain’s inflation, which reached 10% and then fell back to a more typical level, see here.

                    They have not been able to isolate themselves the same way France have, and are in a situation much closer to the UK with regards to reliance on gas, but through better economic management within Spain and across the eurozone now have lower inflation.

                    Edit: speeeeling.