• Big P
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    9 months ago

    Quick, we’re losing the core left voters - deploy the gay story

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      9 months ago

      How I hope that is truly the case. That is, that the right is losing ground to the left (ie progressive) sector of the world. It needs to happen, and by all “rights” it should have happened long before this. Luckily the pendulum always swings back to the left at some point - and i really believe that time is coming.

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        9 months ago

        This is just bullshit fluff to cover up the fact that they have absolutely no intention of making ordinary people’s lives better.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he’s not a homophobe. But this is just the Dems self-defeating demographic strategy. Fuck the working class but hey, marginalised people, vote for us!

        And he can’t even do it properly because he’s decided transphobia and racism are A-OK because otherwise the media he is too afraid to stand up too will attack his spineless self.

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          9 months ago

          Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class” over - hell I am the working class. And I want all marginalized people to be included in the process of democracy.

          I live in Utah where transphobia is enshrined into law - they just passed a law disallowing trans people from using public restrooms. I’m glad I’m not the guy who has to sit at the bathroom door examining everyone’s penis to make sure it matches what it should be on their birth certificate.

          Anyway I think all people have to make a concerted effort to stand up and fight of phobia and get involved in voting for more forward-thinking and less fearful people.

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            9 months ago

            Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class”

            This thread is about Labour in the UK. Far too many similarities, mind.

            Loyalty to a political party is a bit weird but whatever, you need to pay attention to what they do not what you wish they’d do.

            “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin. — Chuck Schumer, 2016

            That’s how the Dems lost in 2016 and it’s how they may lose again in 2024. And it’s how Starmer’s Labour party will fail to undo the damage the Tories did, just like Blair’s Labour party failed (because it had no intention of trying).

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              9 months ago

              It is because I’ve paid attention for 70 years to what democrats do vs. republicans that I am and always will be utterly loyal in every way to the Democratic party. They will not lose this time around, that’s one thing I can promise - a blue wave is about to sweep over this country from one corner to the other. And even if that doesn’t happen, I believe being a democrat that I never lose at all.

              But, that’s just me and how I see things. I get where you are coming from in regard to the problems with labour and class inequities in the UK.

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      9 months ago

      Kier starmer errrr used to be called ‘gay starmer’ likes the word ‘gay’ has a cool Grindr profile has gay friends yes that’s it that’s the one bingo got it yes gottem