Posting this because it is a total non-story that is typical of today’s news cycle.

First you have the standard tiresome tactics currently in use by HMG:

  1. Don’t deny anything explicitly
  2. Don’t correct the false assumptions that are then made

Leaving the EHCR is basically a non-starter; the Good Friday Agreement requires the ECHR to be enforceable in Northern Ireland. I don’t see anyone opening up the terms of the GFA anytime soon.

So: there was no explicit statement that there is a plan to leave the ECHR, and leaving the ECHR isn’t realistic anyway. It’s a non-story.

So now into the question: what “real” news is happening today in UK Politics?

  • snacks
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    they just keep going. I have some respect for the constant banging of head on wall, like a drunk whos lost the plot, but at some point someone needs to step in. Leaving the ECHR on one single issue isnt just stupid, its Tory Party stupid

    • C4d@lemmy.worldOP
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      The only value I can see to any of this is distraction and obfuscation. It manufactures an apparent problem that they can then attempt to blame on the “woke”, “loony left”, “blob”, “EU”, “globalist WEF elites” or whatever this week’s flavour is.

      Actually this week it’s immigration lawyer bashing isn’t it?

      Thing is, the people in the boats are… people. They’re being treated as a means to an end.

      If HMG were serious about “stopping the boats” then they could easily hire staff to clear the backlog and effectively take out the smugglers by allowing asylum claims to be made from outside the UK via a legal and official route.

      If HMG were serious about “stopping immigration”, the folk on the boats aren’t even the main factor; legal immigration dwarfs it.

      In short, I think the whole thing is a sick sideshow.

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        id be surprised if they have enough time left in this parliament to make such a move. Its a pretty complicated thing to renege on a foundational arrangement. I can think of one pretty big problem, that Good Friday Agreement is definitely resting on it. The chances of getting that sorted in under a year are slim to zero.

        Its performative cruelty

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    Get the fecking Tories OUT. They are literally undermining every safety net we have.

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    They usually make these sorts of announcements when they are trying to hide something else. They would never dream of leaving the ECHR. There is a faction within the party that has pushed for it, but reality > fairy tales. Then again it is the Tories. Reason left them years ago.

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    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Robert Jenrick, the immigration minister, said the government will do “whatever is required”, even if that means pulling out of the ECHR, the 70-year-old pan-European treaty that protects human rights and political freedoms in the continent.

    However, ahead of an election, the Conservatives could dial up their rhetoric against the ECHR in order to create a dividing line with Labour.

    The government’s plan to send some migrants to Rwanda for processing of their asylum claims is still facing a supreme court battle.

    Jenrick gave his assessment as he announced the government has struck a deal with Turkey to focus on coordinated actions to “disrupt and dismantle” people-smuggling gangs.

    On Tuesday night, the government announced the establishment of an operational “centre of excellence” by the Turkish national police and supported by the UK.

    The centre would aim to strengthen collaboration between the National Crime Agency and Home Office intelligence staff based in Turkey and their Turkish counterparts, the British government said.


    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    New article title is much less click-baity: UK would be outlier with Russia if it left ECHR, Law Society says