• Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        10 months ago

        Plants are, in my experience, almost comically apolitical. They only care about their own photosynthesis. The idea that that they all work together, as a kingdom, to prop up the forest, is… not plausible.

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          10 months ago

          I’ve studied fish and I can say with absolute certainty that they are not capable of forming schools. They only care about their own bubble and how close they are to the adjacent fish, striving to keep a minimum distance to each other. On the whole they cannot possibly move as a school. That would require a conspiracy of an uncountable number of fish, an implausible achievement for a creature with a brain the size of a pencil tip.

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      10 months ago

      I would say that this is similar to how american liberals don’t believe in any form of racism besides someone screaming the n word while using klan robes, but I am not convinced that these think tank ghouls believe in anything besides filling their pockets

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    10 months ago

    apolitical

    I already knew this meant “status quo warrior ashamed of sounding right wing” but recent interactions with federated Lemmy users have really hammered in what a bunch of bootlicking sycophants for capitalism tend to call themselves “apolitical” or “nonpolitical.” disgost

    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      10 months ago

      “The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

      ― Bertolt Brecht

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        “The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

        ― Bertolt Brecht

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

    • Warren Buffett
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    10 months ago

    The water cycle? Kind of ridiculous to think all those rivers are working together, most of them only care about their own flow. The idea that they all work together to prop up an ‘ocean’ is ridiculous.

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    10 months ago

    What does “high-status conspiracy theory” mean? Cuz every “high-status capitalist” seems to keep blaming the Jews without fail.

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    10 months ago

    The guy doesn’t even admit that capitalism exists, apparently. There’s no evidence of the bourgeois class doing anything.

    My man you are literally head of political economy at a think tank. What is there to think about if there are no people manifesting effects economically!?!

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    10 months ago

    Okay if capitalism doesn’t exist and nobody does anything on behalf of it, then it should be okay if we overthrow it, right? I mean you can’t defend that which doesn’t exist. So if there’s nothing to defend, then what’s the problem with socialism? What are you preserving?

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      10 months ago

      I already know how these people would answer. Their response is that what exists currently is simply freedom. Maybe some minor tweaks are necessary to bring more people into the fold of freedom, but otherwise what exists now is not an intended, designed structure.

      However they’d claim socialism is an attempt to corral natural human freedom in an unnatural way.

      These people don’t like admitting that certain people have intrinsic political conflict with others. They view all conflict as misunderstandings or the personal moral failure of greed

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    I can’t get a business person to read their emails or attempt to understand their business even when a fuckload of money is on the line. The idea that they could have their mind changed about their desire for ownership and exploitation to live a fulfilled life in a world where we all suffer less is laughable. Their buy-in is incredibly solid. The idea that they’d strike a deal with a union more quickly than they would a CIA-backed mercenary group charging 20k to make the problem go away is ahistorical

  • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    10 months ago

    This reminded me of a passage from that Conspiracist Manifesto released a few years ago. It was, uh, not great, but this quote has always stuck with me:

    At this point, it would be foolish to ask whether they are conspiring, the 1% who hold %48 of the world’s wealth, who attend the same type of schools, places and people everywhere, who read the same newspapers, succumb to the same fashions, bathe in the same discourses and in the same sense of their hereditary superiority

    Of course they breathe the same air.

    Of course they conspire.

    They don’t even have to plot for that

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      Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: “Do you actually think there’s a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?” For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it “planning” and “strategizing” – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

      parenti-hands

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    10 months ago

    Assuming he’s not stupid and/or lying, looks like he’s so annoying that despite being a think tanker, no business association is willing to invite him to any ! meetings.