• kwomp2@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        561·
        5 months ago

        Looks more like a few hours of cramping body and soul followed by 3 days of emotional hangover

        • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          32·
          5 months ago

          Ehhhhh so this was in 2000. Your standard ecstasy pill (we’re assuming they’re not pipers; these don’t look shiny and they’re not shaped or outpressed) have between 70mg MDMA and 120mg (if they’re absolute fire.)

          This would be about 400mg of MDMA total. While that is quite a lot, you’re not going to have a horrible time—I just wouldn’t do it in public because you WILL be a chattering mess. It’ll still feel amazing, though.

          Source: oldhead, last time I rolled it was a total of about 450mg but spread out over hours and I was absolutely not in public, just writing naked with my partner)

            • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              14·
              5 months ago

              Oh GOD I fully agree in that case. Rolls nowadays have up to 300-400mg in a single pill (sounds like you already know that, but I’m just saying this for context in case another reader doesn’t)

              That’d be like eating a gram or more of Molly at once, and THAT is for sure not safe and not a good time.

        • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          8·
          5 months ago

          Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe ecstacy is actually dehydrating. Dancing at a rave for hours on end without drinking anything is though.

          • Crismus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            5 months ago

            Just like SSRI’s, Ecstasy does interfere with your hypothalamus and temperature regulation. So, small energy expenditures creat oversized responses.

            You would still sweat heavily doing more than lying down with a fan blowing on you.

            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
              11·
              5 months ago

              Yeah, another part of the problem is that you cannot tell that you are hyperthermic and or dehydrated.

              Thats how you get the people that dance all night and then just die, or go comatose or pass out.

              Your body stops telling you wow, i am way too hot and wow, i really need water.

              Sort of like that rare condition where you literally cannot feel pain, and children with it will break their fingers because it feels weird.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        13·
        5 months ago

        AKSHULLY that wasn’t a thing in the 2000s, just marketing hype. Rolls back then had between 70 and 120mg of MDMA, and 120 is a basal amount you want to take if you fully want to get rolling.

        Now it’s TOTALLY a thing, tons of rolls have 300-400mg in a single pill now. It’s insanity.

        • person420@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          8·
          5 months ago

          Worse than that, that one website dance something that would test pills found that a huge percentage of the “ecstasy” people took didn’t contain MDMA. A surprising amount didn’t even contain illegal drugs. Just over the counter speed.

            • person420@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              6·
              5 months ago

              Dancesafe.org was it! I’m going back over 20 years to the late 90’s early 2000’s. I can’t comment on the state of ecstasy today, I haven’t rolled in over 20 years.

          • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            5·
            5 months ago

            Yah, there were TONS of pipers going around (BZP/TFMPP) when that was legal to buy. I’ve never had one because I could instantly tell when a pill was a piper (shiny, hard, outpress, or shaped.) I could also tell by the taste if I licked it. Headache city apparently.

        • ditty@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          5 months ago

          Damn that is insane. My skin would slink off if I did 300+

          • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            6·
            5 months ago

            Recently did 400-450 each with my partner in a night but over the course of a couple hours… definitely not something to do in public hahaha. We were naked, quivering piles of hedonism, writhing in bed for hours in absolute insane, well, ecstasy. It’s aptly named, that’s for sure.

            For once, got incredible sleep afterwards and felt awesome the next day! Thank you, sleep.

  • FinishingDutch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7710·
    5 months ago

    I miss that era. Companies didn’t mind a bit of edginess and weren’t afraid to market to adults. The console culture itself also isn’t what it used to be.

    These days, gaming consoles all need to be safe enough for five year olds to play on them. And it’s caused everything to be just too bland and safe, both in marketing and the console itself. Can’t really have things like Xbox 360 Uno with the live camera feed and no moderation. Or the wholly uncensored COD lobbies.

    • stufkes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      479·
      5 months ago

      I like the part between your two paragraphs. The early gaming era was really shitty when it came to diversity and… It’s not even representation, it’s not having to play sluts or princesses or whatever.

      The now-era is all AAA all-the-same sanitised stuff, nothing to do with lack of edginess. Just corporate safety in mainstream appeal. Currently, indie games are where the experiments and interesting ideas happen.

      • FinishingDutch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        341·
        5 months ago

        I’m certainly not going to say you’re wrong on that first part. I’ve been online since 1996. At that time, the internet was the domain of white, heterosexual, nerdy, generally well educated guys. And me being a white, heterosexual, nerdy, well educated guy… well… going online felt like coming home. Those were my people. I still really miss those days.

        But I also know that the experience of someone not like me would’ve been wildly different. I learned a bajillion slurs on COD lobbies after all. It’s a good thing that more people now feel welcome online, as it led to platform growth and functionality that we otherwise wouldn’t have had if it was just ‘my kind of people’.

        The current safe, sanitised, gentrified gaming sphere also has benefits: COD lobbies these days are very pleasant by comparison. You even have to sign a code of conduct to get on multiplayer. It feels more welcoming, less hostile. Of course, companies certainly have been financially incentivized to attract as wide an audience as possible. For example, the very first GTA game sold about 6 million copies. GTA V has sold 200 million. And with ever-increasing development budgets, you can’t afford to cater to a niche, you want to cast as wide a net as possible to recoup those costs.

        • stufkes@lemmy.worldEnglish
          262·
          5 months ago

          “the internet was the domain of white, heterosexual, nerdy, generally well educated guys. And me being a white, heterosexual, nerdy, well educated guy… well… going online felt like coming home. Those were my people”

          Thank you for putting it so clearly. Yes, it is completely valid to long for a time where the own niche was the in-group. As someone who’s been on the web from early on but a woman, it wasn’t really “my people”. It was never a safe space for me, but I totally understand where you are coming from. It’s great to be on the side of the “default”.

          The only spaces I genuinely miss are phpbb forums. I honestly believe they are better than reddit, or the fediverse for that matter. Smaller interest groups have a self selection mechanism and better moderation. I think they could still foster a great environment today that would welcome nerdy educated people on a shared interest without specifically speaking to just one type of educated nerds.

          • FinishingDutch@lemmy.worldEnglish
            13·
            5 months ago

            I miss forums as well, and I’m actually moving back to them. Back in the early 2000’s, I visited like a dozen forums each day. I was a member of like three watch forums, a camera forum, a Star Trek forum, some gaming forums and others. Just ‘doing the rounds’ kept you busy for a while. People also were insanely knowledgeable on those niche forums, and they all had their own specific culture and flavor to them.

            Places like a niche subreddit are… OK at best. They are convenient and easy to visit, but don’t tend to have the level of knowledge and discourse that I generally enjoy. You also run the risk of your sub getting ruined by people who are into the wrong aspects of your particular hobby. For example, on a watch FORUM, the discussions are about design, mechanical features, history, photography, how to repair, etc. etc. On the subreddit, a lot of posts tended to be drive-by posters who ‘found a watch and wanted to know what it’s worth’. or ‘is this fake’. The subreddit didn’t curb that, so eventually I and many others just stopped going there. It was basically too easy for people to post there just because, well, they could. Whereas on an actual watch forum, you can do a bit stricter moderation and the registration requirement weeds out low effort posting.

            Some consider that ‘gatekeeping’, but I see it as a valid way of protecting one’s chosen community.

            • mox@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
              6·
              5 months ago

              It was basically too easy for people to post there just because, well, they could.

              I expect the difference you’re describing was partly due to moderation (and lack thereof), but also partly due to the barrier to entry imposed by the forum signup process.

              Unfortunately, the signup barrier cuts both ways: Despite loving high-quality discussion forums, I seldom bother participating in them these days, mainly because jumping through signup/captcha/email-validation hoops and then having to maintain yet another set of credentials for yet another site, forever, became too much hassle once I had more than a couple dozen. (I have hundreds, so I’m very reluctant to add to the pile.)

              OpenID managed to solve a good deal of that hassle, but it’s mostly forgotten these days. I think well-moderated federated services have the potential to solve it completely, though. Here’s hoping.

        • Shardikprime@lemmy.worldEnglish
          151·
          5 months ago

          Bro here in Brazil, we have slurs in the millions since gaming took of in the 90s

          The number reaches the Brazillions

          • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            5 months ago

            The number reaches the Brazillions

            hahaha ;D

            I used to play Rune Quake with a guy on MPlayer named ‘svfox’ and he was from Brazil - this was 96/97. I miss him sometimes; we managed to lock down games of Rune Quake and CTF we played so well together.

          • FinishingDutch@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            5 months ago

            I don’t think I’ve met any Brazilians back in those days; (online) gaming is really expensive there from what I heard, right?

            One fun thing in the old COD lobbies was always to teach others slurs and general cursing in your language. I learned how to curse folks out in like 50 languages. Each country also has its own unique style of cursing. We Dutch really like to incorporate diseases for example.

      • nl4real@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        5 months ago

        Yeah, gaming (and tech in general) going mainstream brought with it both the good and the bad. More diversity, but also more corporate consolidation.

      • tjsauce@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        5 months ago

        It’s the eternal pendulum swinging between slut and saint, whore and Madonna. AAA games are afraid of sexuality, and one can see why when looking back on how Lara Croft was portrayed in magazines. We need games that, when appropriate, acknowledge sexuality in a way that reflects its role in people’s lives.

    • pyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
      221·
      5 months ago

      this isn’t marketing to adults. it’s marketing to teenage boys.

  • oce 🐆@jlai.luEnglish
    55·
    5 months ago

    I feel like it means: we are not like Nintendo, we make video games for adults (and children who want to play like adults).

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      24·
      5 months ago

      Love it.

      “Hey, you know what would be a good way to advertise our system? Let’s just give children nightmares for about 40 seconds and then splash our logo on the screen at the end.”

      • zaphod@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        5 months ago

        I think most ads for consoles in the early 2000s were like that, at least for ps1, ps2 and the original xbox. Not necessarily nightmare fuel, just “weird” stuff unrelated to the console or games.

    • sonymegadriveEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Watching this gave me Aphex Twin vibes. Then I discovered it was directed by Chris Cunningham. So yeah, that’s why

      • RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        Cognitively and logically, I understand.

        But emotionally, it’s just another one of those little reminders of the passage of time that hits unexpectedly hard.

        I think it’s because my only memories of it are from when I was young. Quake 3 Arena was released almost a year before the PS2, but I’ve never really stopped playing it, and still sometimes get in-person LAN parties together to play it. It feels just as old as I am, and I associate it with good memories from every age.

        But I haven’t touched or even thought about a PS2 in decades. So when it suddenly jumps to the front of my mind, only old memories come with it. Then you start to think about the friends you played it with, and everything that’s happened to you all between them and now. Kids, marriages, divorces, houses, bankruptcies, jobs earned and lost, deaths, etc… Some are doing great, some not so great, but most you just don’t know because you’ve lost contact.

        So yeah, it seems silly on its face, but sometimes random thing just pull you into the past unexpectedly, putting the present and the path between them both in stark contrast. This just happened to be one for me this time.

  • WhoaDang@reddthat.comEnglish
    27·
    5 months ago

    This isn’t a real PS2 ad. It’s a fake created a few years ago by an influencer named Shy Smith.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
    21·
    5 months ago

    Can someone make a version of this photo, but its acetaminophen and the girl is just up-aged to how old she’d be now?

  • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    17·
    5 months ago

    I find this funny, since I used to hide drugs like mushrooms inside consoles. I figured it was the one place literally no one would think to look. Just unscrewed them, put a baggie inside in one of those empty spaces (there’s always a spot), and put the case back together.

    • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Wait, is that actually Garbage? That was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw the picture. That Bond music video she did was awesome. World is Not Enough.