Two women who say they were raped and strangled by the controversial social media influencer Andrew Tate have spoken to the BBC about their experiences.

Another woman has alleged, for the first time, she was raped by Mr Tate’s younger brother, Tristan - also an influencer with millions of followers.

The Tate brothers, aged 37 and 36, currently face charges in Romania of human trafficking and forming an organised group to sexually exploit women. Andrew Tate is also charged with rape.

If found guilty, the two men could be jailed for more than 10 years. They strongly deny the charges against them.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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      The difference is that if a few women accused me of rape they wouldn’t be believed because I don’t give off the impression that I’m a piece of shit that hates women.

      When a shitload of women accuse Tate however, the response is correctly “yea that checks out”.

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        Hates - no. But giving off the impression of being weird is not that hard. I’m certain quite a few people would believe something like this about me purely due to being a sunlight-avoiding wimp bad with words (in verbal conversations).

        So due process is a good thing. For each Andrew Tate there are a few dozens at least of people whom “the society” would eagerly accuse simply because of being asocial and weird. Like that folk psychology with red flags, manipulations and other shit. People practicing it can wound an autist. But I seriously doubt those would help them avoid a serial maniac.

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          This is not about his looks, but about the misogynistic content he creates. If you are accused of rape, and you openly talk about coercing women into sexual acts I’d say that it checks out.

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          Please for the love of God go watch his content and then come back and tell me that you think there is even the most microscopic chance that he is innocent of literally any crime ever.

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              You almost got there you almost managed to get it. The court of public opinion is not a real court so it doesn’t matter and he’s an asshole so who cares.

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          “he looks like a criminal”

          Watch any content of him opening his mouth, it just reeks of misogyny. So yeah since he’s reported, it checks out.

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      accusations against “high profile” people shouldn’t just be taken as proof

      Yeah. I find it highly suspicious that a guy who got famous for being the loudest misogynist on YouTube would be accused of practicing what he preaches. This would be like if someone accused Mike Tyson of hitting him. Or Tucker Carlson of lying. Or Ben Affleck cheating on his wife. Or OJ Simpson of committing a murder.

      You have to take this shit with a huge boulder of salt, because… come on. What are the odds?

      I hope the truth comes to light

      Hearts out to all those possibly wrongfully accused rapists and sex traffickers. Andrew Tate, Harvey Weinstein, Neil Gaiman, Ron Jeremy. Really hope we can clear aside the dozens and dozens of testimonials from people accusing them of wrongdoing and find a piece of evidence I won’t casually dismiss.

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        The worst part is they are usually cleared on some sort of bullshit technicality: “Oh, you didn’t dot your I’s in your rape report, so your statement isn’t valid”.

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      You can use circumstantial evidence to know this guy is guilty. The classes he sold about pimping. Him fleeing to Romania because as he said it’s harder to get convicted of sex trafficking. The previous reports on him by other women.

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      That has never in the entire history of the human race being an individual who looks more guilty than he does. He gives off rapist energy, out of every pour, how can you possibly be defending him?

      When he was born the midwives probably said oh here’s a bad one.

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        That has never in the entire history of the human race being an individual who looks more guilty than he does. He gives off rapist energy

        Completely agree. Too bad that’s not proof of anything, we’re supposed to learn that in grade school

        how can you possibly be defending him?

        They didn’t, they simply reminded everyone that accusations are not in and of themselves proof even if we dislike the person immensely

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          Yeah but there is proof literally everything he has ever done proves that this is 100% in his personality to do also he’s done it in the past so it’s not just that I don’t like him he has form.

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      Can you document for me one case where such accusations against a high profile individual were shown in the fullness of time to be hired fraud?

      There probably is some case like that out there - I’m not saying it’s impossible. But given the past we come from, where women were objects without status, I find it very believable that sexual assault is quite common. I need some reason to take your counterpoint as seriously.

      So please, show me that one clear case where we found out that the woman had been paid by political enemies to create false accusations.

      EDIT: 3 days later, still waiting.