• Shizrak@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Also possible that a good dude who preached love and kindness went into a coma when the tyrants put him on a cross, and then woke up a few days later, with no involvement whatsoever from the creator.

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      3 months ago

      So you’re suggesting a guy who was ruthlessly beaten and crucified , then stabbed in the side revealing that his lung had collapsed, simply recovered after two nights in a tomb and pushed a boulder out of the way, without the armed guards noticing? And who were the dudes just chilling there? And how do you explain the ascension into heaven?

      It is possible, but I’m not buying it

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        3 months ago

        That’s fair, and you’re entitled to believe what you like.

        My faith tells me that the possible (though unlikely) set of events must be true, as the alternative is impossible and just as unlikely.

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          3 months ago

          How is it impossible?

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            3 months ago

            In the simplest possible terms: people do not come back from the dead. That is an impossible thing.

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              3 months ago

              And how do we know this?

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                3 months ago

                Logic and reason from billions of people’s shared experiences on the earth.

                Feel free to die and return and prove me wrong.

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                  3 months ago

                  So, you’re saying Jesus didn’t rise from the dead because it’s impossible. And that we know it’s impossible because nobody’s risen from the dead, which should include Jesus because you reject that he rose from the dead because it’s impossible.

                  Isn’t this circular reasoning?

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                    3 months ago

                    Sure. Whenever discussing religion one will fall into circular reasoning, because faith itself is circular reasoning. One cannot use logic or reason to get out of a position that logic and reason did not get them into.