• FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee
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    20 days ago

    No, he’s English. Though according to Wikipedia his mum is Jewish and born in South Africa and his dad is protestant and born in Northern Ireland, which I guess to an American is “half Irish and half Jewish” because of their weird way of describing their ancestry like it’s their nationality.

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      20 days ago

      Soooo his mom is Jewish and his dad is Irish…feels like you’re reeeeeeeally reaching for an “America Bad” here

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        20 days ago

        More just “America odd”. From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry and talk about it like it’s their nationality. Just a culture difference.

        Also be careful about assuming a Northern Irish protestant identifies as Irish!

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          That’s what happens when almost everyone in the country had ancestors who only came here in the last 200 years. The “American identity” is founded in the idea that either we or our ancestors were born somewhere else and then came here. It’s much different than someplace like the UK where so many are probably within a days walk of where one of their 10th great grandparents lived.

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            19 days ago

            Nah bro. Elsewhere in the Americas people identify with the country they were born at. It’s a cultural trait. When you start justifying with fake exceptionalism is when you make it weird.

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              19 days ago

              Not sure what your point is. The US is incredibly diverse, and that diversity has very modern roots (when compared to many other diverse countries). That’s not exceptionalism, that’s just demographics. It’s not a competition. Combined with large internal migrations over its history and its large size, many Americans live in cities and regions they have no historical family connection to. So when answering a question about why “Americans seem to be very obsessed with their nationality” it seemed relevant.

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          From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry

          Oh ok, well, in the mean time, say hi to your King and the Royal Family and your other nobility by ancestry for us.

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            19 days ago

            Don’t worry, most of us find it pretty odd too, but apparently American media fucking loves them!

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              19 days ago

              American media love a spectacle… just like how non-Americans seem to delight in watching Americans self-immolate.

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          No, thats not just a British protective, that all of the world.

          It is well known how Americans use their ancestry, just as you described.
          And yes, it’s just odd, perhaps irritating (for Europeans), but it’s just how they decided to (self-?) identity, let them express themselves. And it’s not like they are keeping it a secret :).

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      19 days ago

      What did you say, Loyalist? You dare question my resolve? I am a soldier of the Continental Army, trained in the art of guerrilla warfare, honed by the fires of battle. I have crossed the Delaware, faced redcoats on the field, and I possess a skill set beyond your comprehension.

      You think your king and army can intimidate me? Think again. I have the will of liberty coursing through my veins, and a mind sharper than any bayonet. I have fired my musket with unmatched accuracy, and I’ve outmaneuvered your kind at every turn.

      You are nothing to me but a loyalist lackey, and I will rain down a hail of rebellion upon you. You’re not prepared for the force that is the spirit of independence! I will take to the battlefield and make you regret ever crossing paths with an American patriot.

      I’ll unleash a storm of cannon fire that will echo through the ages. You can’t even begin to fathom the lengths to which I would go to defend my freedom, and when I’m through, you’ll be begging to be part of my cause.

      So, while you sit there in your fine London attire, clutching your tea, remember this: I fight not just for myself, but for my countrymen and the very ideals of liberty. You’ve mistaken my humility for weakness, but I assure you, the wrath of a free man is something you cannot comprehend.

      Try me, you loyalist fool.

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